Another twist on this subject. My test neighborhood on this will be our entry into the metered broadband market. We are going to give everyone the same speed most likely 3 times faster than anything Comcast is doing. Plans will be tiered on transfer levels where they get a set transfer amount per level with each higher package level giving more allotted transfer and a decrease in overage costs per gig. The TV portion of it will not count on the bandwidth metering nor the phone services.
The big question here is we need to actually meter the actual internet usage. What programs out allow this? We thought the MT user manager would work but it's not going to do what we need it to do. I did some searching and came up with very little useful information. Any ideas ? Michiana Wireless, Inc. John Buwa, President http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com 574-233-7170 "Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom!" *US Distributor for www.itelite.net Antennas* > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:40 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it? > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > il.net> wrote: > > They have to be an i series receiver. There is a plain SD version > and an HD > > DVR version. > > Ok so the standard internet capable receiver series. > > > > > AFAIK, wireless is not an option. I don't know the bandwidth per > channel (I > > asked, just was never told), but was told it would fit in 100 > megabits. It > > is multicast, so multiple receivers with the same show use the same > > upstream... stream. > > Ive got evil ideas about how to do it. Now ive got some more prodding > about getting to it. Seams like it needs a full gigE feed so that does > wrinkle things, but that would be for the full 500 or so channels > maybe? > > > > > The guy I was working with said they can evaluate the particular > project and > > massage it to help it obtain DirecTV's approval. > > Mmmm, I wonder if someone just wanted 2 or 3 channels what they would > do. > > > The deal with the ROW is > > that DirecTV doesn't want themselves or you to possibly be considered > a > > franchise. > > That seams reasonable enough, in the old ways of thinking. My > understanding is that anything over the net can not be called a > franchise. I can see how the line becomes blurred when you own the > last mile and the services running on it. Still, I see about a dozen > places I could use this if I can make a business case for it. > > > > > http://www.directv.com/images/assets/mdu/DIRECTV_MFH3.pdf > > > > > > ---------- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:00 PM > > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it? > > > >> I am extremely interested in this. I knew DTV would let you setup a > >> mini cable-op but I have not heard about them having any end > receivers > >> involved with it. What is the deal with crossing ROW's? I assume > this > >> would apply to wireless. Do you know the bandwidth used per channel? > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > il.net> > >> wrote: > >>> DirecTV has a program for MDUs and planned communities. They send > the > >>> signals over Ethernet from a main set of RF receivers to the > DirecTV > >>> receivers in each unit. The catch is that you're not supposed to > cross a > >>> public right of way with the DirecTV content. > >>> > >>> If you have some questions, I'll try to ask. Otherwise, I'll pass > you on > >>> to > >>> the reps at the companies I've been working with. > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------- > >>> Mike Hammett > >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >>> http://www.ics-il.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------- > >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 2:12 PM > >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it? > >>> > >>>> Ok folks, > >>>> > >>>> Sorry for the delay in response to the replies. Out fiber interest > >>>> started > >>>> because we have a new neighborhood just being developed and they > are > >>>> debating between us and Comcast going in there. Our plans for this > one > >>>> is > >>>> to > >>>> build a tower in the very rear of the complex and pipe in the feed > to > >>>> the > >>>> tower using tango's gigalink radio for the backhaul and then run > fiber > >>>> to > >>>> the homes in the neighborhood. Since paving is not done yet it's a > great > >>>> time to get a start. So obviously with the available bandwidth we > will > >>>> be > >>>> offering them speeds faster than Comcast could plus voip service > over > >>>> the > >>>> FTTH. There biggest drawback and the reason for us wanting to do > fiber > >>>> here > >>>> is this area is like the Jungle and they want to keep it like > that, so > >>>> chances are satellite won't even work at each home because of > trees. So > >>>> again their reservation with our plan is they have no TV or > satellite > >>>> service but if Comcast went in they would. They would rather go > with us > >>>> if > >>>> we could find a way to get them TV as well. So does anyone know of > a way > >>>> to > >>>> distribute satellite service over fiber? We could obviously put > the dish > >>>> on > >>>> the tower and pick of the satellite no problem but how to get it > to the > >>>> homes over the fiber? > >>>> > >>>> Michiana Wireless, Inc. > >>>> John Buwa, President > >>>> > >>>> http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com > >>>> 574-233-7170 > >>>> > >>>> "Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom!" > >>>> > >>>> *US Distributor for www.itelite.net Antennas* > >>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>>>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:54 AM > >>>>> To: WISPA General List > >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber > >>>>> > >>>>> We can buy the ONT for $375. > >>>>> The COE per sub works out to about another $200. > >>>>> So $500 plus the strand of fiber. Drop fiber can be had for 25 > cents > >>>>> per > >>>>> foot. > >>>>> Contractors can put it in for a buck a foot. Including cleanup. > >>>>> In a subdivision, I can do FTTH for less than $1K per sub. > >>>>> And my arpu for the triple play is around $80 or more minimum. > We are > >>>>> in > >>>>> the black the second year. > >>>>> Small directional boring machines really don't mess up the > landscaping > >>>>> much. > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Charles Wyble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:46 AM > >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Jerry Richardson wrote: > >>>>> >> I hate to rain on someone's parage but before you can dig > under the > >>>>> >> streets and sidewalks you have to get approval from the City > or > >>>>> County. > >>>>> >> They typically require engineering surveys, and co-ordination > with > >>>>> the > >>>>> >> other utilities such as power, tv, phone, water, sewer, etc. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Even with directional boring you still have to dig up > something > >>>>> somewhere > >>>>> >> so there will be landscape repair costs, and cleanup. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> I would venture to guess it will be about 2000 per house by > the time > >>>>> it's > >>>>> >> all said and done (possibly more). > >>>>> >> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > You are correct. The cost per subscriber for > fiber/cable/dsl/copper > >>>>> is > >>>>> > $1500.00. I actually just recently was talking with some telcom > >>>>> > executives about this. Oh and that is spread across lots of > >>>>> subscribers > >>>>> > over several years. You need millions or billions upfront. > >>>>> >> That's a lot of wireless. Even at 10k per wiMax AP you would > be way > >>>>> ahead > >>>>> >> (in 6 months they will be 5k). > >>>>> >> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Yep. And wireless doesn't require nearly as much effort in > terms of > >>>>> > rights of way etc. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > -- > >>>>> > Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 > >>>>> > http://charlesnw.blogspot.com > >>>>> > CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > >>>>> ----------- > >>>>> > WISPA Wants You! 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