That's exactly what I'm looking at doing.

A billing package that supports AAA through RADIUS should do this.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:15 AM
To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it?

> Another twist on this subject. My test neighborhood on this will be our
> entry into the metered broadband market. We are going to give everyone the
> same speed most likely 3 times faster than anything Comcast is doing. 
> Plans
> will be tiered on transfer levels where they get a set transfer amount per
> level with each higher package level giving more allotted transfer and a
> decrease in overage costs per gig. The TV portion of it will not count on
> the bandwidth metering nor the phone services.
>
> The big question here is we need to actually meter the actual internet
> usage. What programs out allow this? We thought the MT user manager would
> work but it's not going to do what we need it to do. I did some searching
> and came up with very little useful information. Any ideas ?
>
> Michiana Wireless, Inc.
> John Buwa, President
>
> http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com
> 574-233-7170
>
> "Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom!"
>
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:40 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it?
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> il.net> wrote:
>> > They have to be an i series receiver.  There is a plain SD version
>> and an HD
>> > DVR version.
>>
>> Ok so the standard internet capable receiver series.
>>
>> >
>> > AFAIK, wireless is not an option.  I don't know the bandwidth per
>> channel (I
>> > asked, just was never told), but was told it would fit in 100
>> megabits.  It
>> > is multicast, so multiple receivers with the same show use the same
>> > upstream...  stream.
>>
>> Ive got evil ideas about how to do it. Now ive got some more prodding
>> about getting to it. Seams like it needs a full gigE feed so that does
>> wrinkle things, but that would be for the full 500 or so channels
>> maybe?
>>
>> >
>> > The guy I was working with said they can evaluate the particular
>> project and
>> > massage it to help it obtain DirecTV's approval.
>>
>> Mmmm, I wonder if someone just wanted 2 or 3 channels what they would
>> do.
>>
>> >  The deal with the ROW is
>> > that DirecTV doesn't want themselves or you to possibly be considered
>> a
>> > franchise.
>>
>> That seams reasonable enough, in the old ways of thinking. My
>> understanding is that anything over the net can not be called a
>> franchise. I can see how the line becomes blurred when you own the
>> last mile and the services running on it. Still, I see about a dozen
>> places I could use this if I can make a business case for it.
>>
>> >
>> > http://www.directv.com/images/assets/mdu/DIRECTV_MFH3.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------
>> > Mike Hammett
>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> > http://www.ics-il.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------------
>> > From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:00 PM
>> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it?
>> >
>> >> I am extremely interested in this. I knew DTV would let you setup a
>> >> mini cable-op but I have not heard about them having any end
>> receivers
>> >> involved with it. What is the deal with crossing ROW's? I assume
>> this
>> >> would apply to wireless. Do you know the bandwidth used per channel?
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> il.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> DirecTV has a program for MDUs and planned communities.  They send
>> the
>> >>> signals over Ethernet from a main set of RF receivers to the
>> DirecTV
>> >>> receivers in each unit.  The catch is that you're not supposed to
>> cross a
>> >>> public right of way with the DirecTV content.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you have some questions, I'll try to ask.  Otherwise, I'll pass
>> you on
>> >>> to
>> >>> the reps at the companies I've been working with.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ----------
>> >>> Mike Hammett
>> >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> >>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --------------------------------------------------
>> >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 2:12 PM
>> >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it?
>> >>>
>> >>>> Ok folks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sorry for the delay in response to the replies. Out fiber interest
>> >>>> started
>> >>>> because we have a new neighborhood just being developed and they
>> are
>> >>>> debating between us and Comcast going in there. Our plans for this
>> one
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> build a tower in the very rear of the complex and pipe in the feed
>> to
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> tower using tango's gigalink radio for the backhaul and then run
>> fiber
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> the homes in the neighborhood. Since paving is not done yet it's a
>> great
>> >>>> time to get a start. So obviously with the available bandwidth we
>> will
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> offering them speeds faster than Comcast could plus voip service
>> over
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> FTTH. There biggest drawback and the reason for us wanting to do
>> fiber
>> >>>> here
>> >>>> is this area is like the Jungle and they want to keep it like
>> that, so
>> >>>> chances are satellite won't even work at each home because of
>> trees. So
>> >>>> again their reservation with our plan is they have no TV or
>> satellite
>> >>>> service but if Comcast went in they would. They would rather go
>> with us
>> >>>> if
>> >>>> we could find a way to get them TV as well. So does anyone know of
>> a way
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> distribute satellite service over fiber? We could obviously put
>> the dish
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> the tower and pick of the satellite no problem but how to get it
>> to the
>> >>>> homes over the fiber?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Michiana Wireless, Inc.
>> >>>> John Buwa, President
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com
>> >>>> 574-233-7170
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom!"
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *US Distributor for www.itelite.net Antennas*
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> >>>>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:54 AM
>> >>>>> To: WISPA General List
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We can buy the ONT for $375.
>> >>>>> The COE per sub works out to about another $200.
>> >>>>> So $500 plus the strand of fiber.  Drop fiber can be had for 25
>> cents
>> >>>>> per
>> >>>>> foot.
>> >>>>> Contractors can put it in for a buck a foot.   Including cleanup.
>> >>>>>  In a subdivision, I can do FTTH for less than $1K per sub.
>> >>>>> And my arpu for the triple play is around $80 or more minimum.
>> We are
>> >>>>> in
>> >>>>> the black the second year.
>> >>>>> Small directional boring machines really don't mess up the
>> landscaping
>> >>>>> much.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> From: "Charles Wyble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:46 AM
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> > Jerry Richardson wrote:
>> >>>>> >> I hate to rain on someone's parage but before you can dig
>> under the
>> >>>>> >> streets and sidewalks you have to get approval from the City
>> or
>> >>>>> County.
>> >>>>> >> They typically require engineering surveys, and co-ordination
>> with
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> >> other utilities such as power, tv, phone, water, sewer, etc.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> Even with directional boring you still have to dig up
>> something
>> >>>>> somewhere
>> >>>>> >> so there will be landscape repair costs, and cleanup.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> I would venture to guess it will be about 2000 per house by
>> the time
>> >>>>> it's
>> >>>>> >> all said and done (possibly more).
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > You are correct. The cost per subscriber for
>> fiber/cable/dsl/copper
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>> > $1500.00. I actually just recently was talking with some telcom
>> >>>>> > executives about this. Oh and that is spread across lots of
>> >>>>> subscribers
>> >>>>> > over several years. You need millions or billions upfront.
>> >>>>> >> That's a lot of wireless. Even at 10k per wiMax AP you would
>> be way
>> >>>>> ahead
>> >>>>> >> (in 6 months they will be 5k).
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Yep.  And wireless doesn't require nearly as much effort in
>> terms of
>> >>>>> > rights of way etc.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > --
>> >>>>> > Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059
>> >>>>> > http://charlesnw.blogspot.com
>> >>>>> > CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
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