We use Freeside for billing so importing the data won't be an issue. We need
to not only accurately track the usage but allow customer access to a portal
page that lets them monitor their usage as well. What would be even nicer
than just telling them you have used X Gigs this month but a summary of
their usage as well. Like summary of sites visited, where they have used
most of their bandwidth etc...

Michiana Wireless, Inc.
John Buwa, President
 
http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com
574-233-7170
 
"Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom!"

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:28 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it?
> 
> That's exactly what I'm looking at doing.
> 
> A billing package that supports AAA through RADIUS should do this.
> 
> 
> ----------
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:15 AM
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it?
> 
> > Another twist on this subject. My test neighborhood on this will be
> our
> > entry into the metered broadband market. We are going to give
> everyone the
> > same speed most likely 3 times faster than anything Comcast is doing.
> > Plans
> > will be tiered on transfer levels where they get a set transfer
> amount per
> > level with each higher package level giving more allotted transfer
> and a
> > decrease in overage costs per gig. The TV portion of it will not
> count on
> > the bandwidth metering nor the phone services.
> >
> > The big question here is we need to actually meter the actual
> internet
> > usage. What programs out allow this? We thought the MT user manager
> would
> > work but it's not going to do what we need it to do. I did some
> searching
> > and came up with very little useful information. Any ideas ?
> >
> > Michiana Wireless, Inc.
> > John Buwa, President
> >
> > http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com
> > 574-233-7170
> >
> > "Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom!"
> >
> > *US Distributor for www.itelite.net Antennas*
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:40 PM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it?
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> il.net> wrote:
> >> > They have to be an i series receiver.  There is a plain SD version
> >> and an HD
> >> > DVR version.
> >>
> >> Ok so the standard internet capable receiver series.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > AFAIK, wireless is not an option.  I don't know the bandwidth per
> >> channel (I
> >> > asked, just was never told), but was told it would fit in 100
> >> megabits.  It
> >> > is multicast, so multiple receivers with the same show use the
> same
> >> > upstream...  stream.
> >>
> >> Ive got evil ideas about how to do it. Now ive got some more
> prodding
> >> about getting to it. Seams like it needs a full gigE feed so that
> does
> >> wrinkle things, but that would be for the full 500 or so channels
> >> maybe?
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The guy I was working with said they can evaluate the particular
> >> project and
> >> > massage it to help it obtain DirecTV's approval.
> >>
> >> Mmmm, I wonder if someone just wanted 2 or 3 channels what they
> would
> >> do.
> >>
> >> >  The deal with the ROW is
> >> > that DirecTV doesn't want themselves or you to possibly be
> considered
> >> a
> >> > franchise.
> >>
> >> That seams reasonable enough, in the old ways of thinking. My
> >> understanding is that anything over the net can not be called a
> >> franchise. I can see how the line becomes blurred when you own the
> >> last mile and the services running on it. Still, I see about a dozen
> >> places I could use this if I can make a business case for it.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > http://www.directv.com/images/assets/mdu/DIRECTV_MFH3.pdf
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----------
> >> > Mike Hammett
> >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --------------------------------------------------
> >> > From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:00 PM
> >> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it?
> >> >
> >> >> I am extremely interested in this. I knew DTV would let you setup
> a
> >> >> mini cable-op but I have not heard about them having any end
> >> receivers
> >> >> involved with it. What is the deal with crossing ROW's? I assume
> >> this
> >> >> would apply to wireless. Do you know the bandwidth used per
> channel?
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Mike Hammett
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> il.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> DirecTV has a program for MDUs and planned communities.  They
> send
> >> the
> >> >>> signals over Ethernet from a main set of RF receivers to the
> >> DirecTV
> >> >>> receivers in each unit.  The catch is that you're not supposed
> to
> >> cross a
> >> >>> public right of way with the DirecTV content.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If you have some questions, I'll try to ask.  Otherwise, I'll
> pass
> >> you on
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> the reps at the companies I've been working with.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ----------
> >> >>> Mike Hammett
> >> >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> >>> http://www.ics-il.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------
> >> >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 2:12 PM
> >> >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Ok folks,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Sorry for the delay in response to the replies. Out fiber
> interest
> >> >>>> started
> >> >>>> because we have a new neighborhood just being developed and
> they
> >> are
> >> >>>> debating between us and Comcast going in there. Our plans for
> this
> >> one
> >> >>>> is
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> build a tower in the very rear of the complex and pipe in the
> feed
> >> to
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> tower using tango's gigalink radio for the backhaul and then
> run
> >> fiber
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> the homes in the neighborhood. Since paving is not done yet
> it's a
> >> great
> >> >>>> time to get a start. So obviously with the available bandwidth
> we
> >> will
> >> >>>> be
> >> >>>> offering them speeds faster than Comcast could plus voip
> service
> >> over
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> FTTH. There biggest drawback and the reason for us wanting to
> do
> >> fiber
> >> >>>> here
> >> >>>> is this area is like the Jungle and they want to keep it like
> >> that, so
> >> >>>> chances are satellite won't even work at each home because of
> >> trees. So
> >> >>>> again their reservation with our plan is they have no TV or
> >> satellite
> >> >>>> service but if Comcast went in they would. They would rather go
> >> with us
> >> >>>> if
> >> >>>> we could find a way to get them TV as well. So does anyone know
> of
> >> a way
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> distribute satellite service over fiber? We could obviously put
> >> the dish
> >> >>>> on
> >> >>>> the tower and pick of the satellite no problem but how to get
> it
> >> to the
> >> >>>> homes over the fiber?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Michiana Wireless, Inc.
> >> >>>> John Buwa, President
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com
> >> >>>> 574-233-7170
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> "Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom!"
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> *US Distributor for www.itelite.net Antennas*
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> >>>>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> >> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:54 AM
> >> >>>>> To: WISPA General List
> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> We can buy the ONT for $375.
> >> >>>>> The COE per sub works out to about another $200.
> >> >>>>> So $500 plus the strand of fiber.  Drop fiber can be had for
> 25
> >> cents
> >> >>>>> per
> >> >>>>> foot.
> >> >>>>> Contractors can put it in for a buck a foot.   Including
> cleanup.
> >> >>>>>  In a subdivision, I can do FTTH for less than $1K per sub.
> >> >>>>> And my arpu for the triple play is around $80 or more minimum.
> >> We are
> >> >>>>> in
> >> >>>>> the black the second year.
> >> >>>>> Small directional boring machines really don't mess up the
> >> landscaping
> >> >>>>> much.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>>> From: "Charles Wyble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> >> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:46 AM
> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> > Jerry Richardson wrote:
> >> >>>>> >> I hate to rain on someone's parage but before you can dig
> >> under the
> >> >>>>> >> streets and sidewalks you have to get approval from the
> City
> >> or
> >> >>>>> County.
> >> >>>>> >> They typically require engineering surveys, and co-
> ordination
> >> with
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>> >> other utilities such as power, tv, phone, water, sewer,
> etc.
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >> Even with directional boring you still have to dig up
> >> something
> >> >>>>> somewhere
> >> >>>>> >> so there will be landscape repair costs, and cleanup.
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >> I would venture to guess it will be about 2000 per house by
> >> the time
> >> >>>>> it's
> >> >>>>> >> all said and done (possibly more).
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > You are correct. The cost per subscriber for
> >> fiber/cable/dsl/copper
> >> >>>>> is
> >> >>>>> > $1500.00. I actually just recently was talking with some
> telcom
> >> >>>>> > executives about this. Oh and that is spread across lots of
> >> >>>>> subscribers
> >> >>>>> > over several years. You need millions or billions upfront.
> >> >>>>> >> That's a lot of wireless. Even at 10k per wiMax AP you
> would
> >> be way
> >> >>>>> ahead
> >> >>>>> >> (in 6 months they will be 5k).
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > Yep.  And wireless doesn't require nearly as much effort in
> >> terms of
> >> >>>>> > rights of way etc.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > --
> >> >>>>> > Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059
> >> >>>>> > http://charlesnw.blogspot.com
> >> >>>>> > CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> >
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