It's about $40k for up to 512 receivers, another $25k or so for up to 1024 receivers.
---------- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:22 AM To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it? > Hmm, Interesting. Any idea on costs? > > Michiana Wireless, Inc. > John Buwa, President > > http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com > 574-233-7170 > > "Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom!" > > *US Distributor for www.itelite.net Antennas* > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:35 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it? >> >> They have to be an i series receiver. There is a plain SD version and >> an HD >> DVR version. >> >> AFAIK, wireless is not an option. I don't know the bandwidth per >> channel (I >> asked, just was never told), but was told it would fit in 100 megabits. >> It >> is multicast, so multiple receivers with the same show use the same >> upstream... stream. >> >> The guy I was working with said they can evaluate the particular >> project and >> massage it to help it obtain DirecTV's approval. The deal with the ROW >> is >> that DirecTV doesn't want themselves or you to possibly be considered a >> franchise. >> >> http://www.directv.com/images/assets/mdu/DIRECTV_MFH3.pdf >> >> >> ---------- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:00 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it? >> >> > I am extremely interested in this. I knew DTV would let you setup a >> > mini cable-op but I have not heard about them having any end >> receivers >> > involved with it. What is the deal with crossing ROW's? I assume this >> > would apply to wireless. Do you know the bandwidth used per channel? >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> il.net> >> > wrote: >> >> DirecTV has a program for MDUs and planned communities. They send >> the >> >> signals over Ethernet from a main set of RF receivers to the DirecTV >> >> receivers in each unit. The catch is that you're not supposed to >> cross a >> >> public right of way with the DirecTV content. >> >> >> >> If you have some questions, I'll try to ask. Otherwise, I'll pass >> you on >> >> to >> >> the reps at the companies I've been working with. >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- >> >> Mike Hammett >> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 2:12 PM >> >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it? >> >> >> >>> Ok folks, >> >>> >> >>> Sorry for the delay in response to the replies. Out fiber interest >> >>> started >> >>> because we have a new neighborhood just being developed and they >> are >> >>> debating between us and Comcast going in there. Our plans for this >> one >> >>> is >> >>> to >> >>> build a tower in the very rear of the complex and pipe in the feed >> to >> >>> the >> >>> tower using tango's gigalink radio for the backhaul and then run >> fiber >> >>> to >> >>> the homes in the neighborhood. Since paving is not done yet it's a >> great >> >>> time to get a start. So obviously with the available bandwidth we >> will >> >>> be >> >>> offering them speeds faster than Comcast could plus voip service >> over >> >>> the >> >>> FTTH. There biggest drawback and the reason for us wanting to do >> fiber >> >>> here >> >>> is this area is like the Jungle and they want to keep it like that, >> so >> >>> chances are satellite won't even work at each home because of >> trees. So >> >>> again their reservation with our plan is they have no TV or >> satellite >> >>> service but if Comcast went in they would. They would rather go >> with us >> >>> if >> >>> we could find a way to get them TV as well. So does anyone know of >> a way >> >>> to >> >>> distribute satellite service over fiber? We could obviously put the >> dish >> >>> on >> >>> the tower and pick of the satellite no problem but how to get it to >> the >> >>> homes over the fiber? >> >>> >> >>> Michiana Wireless, Inc. >> >>> John Buwa, President >> >>> >> >>> http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com >> >>> 574-233-7170 >> >>> >> >>> "Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom!" >> >>> >> >>> *US Distributor for www.itelite.net Antennas* >> >>> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> >>>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:54 AM >> >>>> To: WISPA General List >> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber >> >>>> >> >>>> We can buy the ONT for $375. >> >>>> The COE per sub works out to about another $200. >> >>>> So $500 plus the strand of fiber. Drop fiber can be had for 25 >> cents >> >>>> per >> >>>> foot. >> >>>> Contractors can put it in for a buck a foot. Including cleanup. >> >>>> In a subdivision, I can do FTTH for less than $1K per sub. >> >>>> And my arpu for the triple play is around $80 or more minimum. We >> are >> >>>> in >> >>>> the black the second year. >> >>>> Small directional boring machines really don't mess up the >> landscaping >> >>>> much. >> >>>> >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Charles Wyble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:46 AM >> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Jerry Richardson wrote: >> >>>> >> I hate to rain on someone's parage but before you can dig under >> the >> >>>> >> streets and sidewalks you have to get approval from the City or >> >>>> County. >> >>>> >> They typically require engineering surveys, and co-ordination >> with >> >>>> the >> >>>> >> other utilities such as power, tv, phone, water, sewer, etc. >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> Even with directional boring you still have to dig up something >> >>>> somewhere >> >>>> >> so there will be landscape repair costs, and cleanup. >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> I would venture to guess it will be about 2000 per house by the >> time >> >>>> it's >> >>>> >> all said and done (possibly more). >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > >> >>>> > You are correct. The cost per subscriber for >> fiber/cable/dsl/copper >> >>>> is >> >>>> > $1500.00. I actually just recently was talking with some telcom >> >>>> > executives about this. Oh and that is spread across lots of >> >>>> subscribers >> >>>> > over several years. You need millions or billions upfront. >> >>>> >> That's a lot of wireless. Even at 10k per wiMax AP you would be >> way >> >>>> ahead >> >>>> >> (in 6 months they will be 5k). >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Yep. And wireless doesn't require nearly as much effort in >> terms of >> >>>> > rights of way etc. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > -- >> >>>> > Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 >> >>>> > http://charlesnw.blogspot.com >> >>>> > CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----- >> >>>> ----------- >> >>>> > WISPA Wants You! 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