My guess is yes on the WiMAX question.  Because it was a buzz word, they could 
get investment dollars if you mentioned WiMAX.  How many people here are buying 
WiMAX because it's the new and fancy?

WiMAX isn't necessarily all that bad if they offered 20 MHz channels for half 
the price.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:32 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] WiMax delays?


I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a "value" decision. If 
there was an AP that would deliver 100Mbps and could support 1000 subscribers, 
I would be willing to pay $10,000+ for it today. There is a real "gap" in the 
products that are available on the market:

At the bottom = Linksys 
Next = Mikrotik
Next = Trango, Canopy, etc
<gap>
Top = licensed Alvarion, Redline, etc.

This is the market that is not being served. There are plenty of backhaul 
solutions, router solutions, etc. but the very last mile AP/CPE for the "higher 
end" is what is missing. I'm not interested in paying $50,000 per base station 
(Alvarion WiMax), but I don't want to pay $10,000 for a solution that uses an 
entire band (Canopy 5700 for example) and only delivers 84Mbps of total 
capacity (when even lower end products can deliver 2x or 3x that in the same 
spectrum).

So, again, why hasn't there been an evolution of products the last 2-3 years? 
Did everyone stop normal R&D to focus on WiMax?

Travis
Microserv

Butch Evans wrote: 
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Mike Hammett wrote:

  Where has the innovation in the last few years gone?</rant>
    
How many in this industry bitch and moan over the cost of gear?  How 
many would purchase an AP at under $200 and STILL think that's too 
high?  How many in this industry are willing to purchase something 
JUST BECAUSE IT IS CHEAPER?  Look at how many people in this 
industry are using DSL as a transport to the Internet.

Answer THOSE questions and you'll begin the see the answer to YOUR 
question.  The problem isn't just "us".  The "big boys" have been 
busy trying to drive pricing levels down in an attempt to "buy the 
market".  And too many of "us" have decided that we have to compete 
on price alone, so we found ways to cut cost by buying cheaper gear 
(there are 2 WISPs within a 30 minute drive of my house that are 
selling service using Linksys gear for APs).  There is at least 3 
WISPs whose service would cover my house that have DSL for their 
internet connection.  I'm not condemming the practice as much as I 
am attempting to illustrate WHY the innovation is leaving the 
industry.  It is NOT gone.  It just doesn't exist in the price range 
that MOST people are willing to pay (WISPs, that is).

  

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