Rick,

I got to get my hands on a couple of Bullets this past week. They work as
expected with no real huge differences over the NS5s and PS5, operationally.
I still prefer the PowerStations as clients personally because of the all in
one package with a nice coupled antenna. I have still heard and seen
problems with the SMA ext. connector on the NS5, so this definitely resolves
that issue!

I think it is a great idea and the price point is exceptional. I see it as
more of an AP application when combined with sectorized antennas or as a CPE
with high gain directionals.

I didn't get to test the functionality of software (like the IPSEC VPN that
was requested) but I did see the same type of patterns as with the other
Ubiquiti AirOS platforms, for what its worth.

These things are gonna be great.

-drew


On 11/26/08 12:48 AM, "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I used and loved Trango at the last WISP I owned/operated in West
> Palm. With my current operation, Tranzeo works well too and I'm
> starting to really enjoy MikroTik but nothing can replace my Trango!
> Maybe Ubiquiti. I 'm looking forward to the bullet. I hope it works
> well. Anyone get an early release?
> -RickG
> 
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>> "trango" and have now given up on a successor to the product line.
>> 
>> Allthough that is true... Its also important to note.... Even today, with the
>> other newer more updated options out there.... When I have a choice..... And
>> I need to guarantee the link will work the first trip onsite, and I need to
>> rely on it.... Trango is still my first choice that I pull off the shelve to
>> install. When the originial product of 8 years ago works so well, its hard
>> for the manufacturer to justify changing it.   Still to this day.... There is
>> not another product on the market that can offer what Trango PtMP offers now
>> from its yr 2000 design.
>> 
>> Sure, we are all migrating to higher capacity gear options where we can....
>> but its not feasible or necessary everywhere.
>> 
>> 
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>> 
>> 
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Travis Johnson
>>  To: WISPA General List
>>  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:59 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
>> 
>> 
>>  Josh,
>> 
>>  I think this was the point. The Trango 5800 series (the 5830 radio) was the
>> top of the line product when it first came out (2001 or 2002 I think). There
>> was nothing else on the market (including Canopy) when Trango first started
>> shipping this product. However, nothing has been done with it since then.
>> They made two failed attempts, and have now given up on a successor to the
>> product line.
>> 
>>  Travis
>>  Microserv
>> 
>>  Josh Luthman wrote:
>> I must be using a different product line then everyone else here - the
>> Trango Access 5800 has left quite a bit to be desired - short range and at
>> most 7mbps throughput.  Mikrotik (costing less new then Trango used) easily
>> outperforms in wireless distance, throughput and (my favorite) capability.
>> 
>> I have no experience with Canopy but I can imagine from all the great buffs
>> it gets around here and their well known history in wireless I don't doubt
>> it is a good product.
>> 
>> Redline is to radios as Sony is to LCDs.  Can't be beat in quality...
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
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>> 
>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>> --- Henry Spencer
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>  On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:
>> 
>>    I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a "value"
>> decision. If there was an AP that would deliver 100Mbps and could
>> support 1000 subscribers, I would be willing to pay $10,000+ for it
>> today. There is a real "gap" in the products that are available on
>> the market:
>>      I don't disagree with your assessment of the current product matrix.
>> I don't even assume that ALL WISPs are "cheap".  I am not sure I
>> would say that even MOST of them are cheap.  But enough of them are
>> that the middle of the road products you want are missing in action.
>> 
>>    Next = Mikrotik
>> Next = Trango, Canopy, etc
>>      Since they have fixed their wireless, I'd put MT in the same class
>> as Trango and Canopy.
>> 
>>    So, again, why hasn't there been an evolution of products the last
>> 2-3 years? Did everyone stop normal R&D to focus on WiMax?
>>      I have an opinion (which I stated in rant form) about what happened
>> to the R&D.  The Canopy line (which is a very nice radio) is a good
>> example.  Motorola has delivered a product that just works.  It is
>> expensive compared to other products sold to the same "marketplace",
>> but it is NOT expensive for what it delivers.  Better, yet, they are
>> working to make a new product line that will improve upon what is
>> available today.  But their primary market isn't the "normal" WISP.
>> They service companies that are better funded, which typically means
>> larger WISPs, cable companies and telcos.
>> 
>> I really hope I didn't offend anyone with my rant.  It wasn't
>> intended to do that.  I really just wish our industry as a whole
>> would get out of the hole that we have dug with the "cheaper is
>> better" mindframe.
>> 
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