Josh,

I think this was the point. The Trango 5800 series (the 5830 radio) was the top of the line product when it first came out (2001 or 2002 I think). There was nothing else on the market (including Canopy) when Trango first started shipping this product. However, nothing has been done with it since then. They made two failed attempts, and have now given up on a successor to the product line.

Travis
Microserv

Josh Luthman wrote:
I must be using a different product line then everyone else here - the
Trango Access 5800 has left quite a bit to be desired - short range and at
most 7mbps throughput.  Mikrotik (costing less new then Trango used) easily
outperforms in wireless distance, throughput and (my favorite) capability.

I have no experience with Canopy but I can imagine from all the great buffs
it gets around here and their well known history in wireless I don't doubt
it is a good product.

Redline is to radios as Sony is to LCDs.  Can't be beat in quality...

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On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:

    
I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a "value"
decision. If there was an AP that would deliver 100Mbps and could
support 1000 subscribers, I would be willing to pay $10,000+ for it
today. There is a real "gap" in the products that are available on
the market:
      
I don't disagree with your assessment of the current product matrix.
I don't even assume that ALL WISPs are "cheap".  I am not sure I
would say that even MOST of them are cheap.  But enough of them are
that the middle of the road products you want are missing in action.

    
Next = Mikrotik
Next = Trango, Canopy, etc
      
Since they have fixed their wireless, I'd put MT in the same class
as Trango and Canopy.

    
So, again, why hasn't there been an evolution of products the last
2-3 years? Did everyone stop normal R&D to focus on WiMax?
      
I have an opinion (which I stated in rant form) about what happened
to the R&D.  The Canopy line (which is a very nice radio) is a good
example.  Motorola has delivered a product that just works.  It is
expensive compared to other products sold to the same "marketplace",
but it is NOT expensive for what it delivers.  Better, yet, they are
working to make a new product line that will improve upon what is
available today.  But their primary market isn't the "normal" WISP.
They service companies that are better funded, which typically means
larger WISPs, cable companies and telcos.

I really hope I didn't offend anyone with my rant.  It wasn't
intended to do that.  I really just wish our industry as a whole
would get out of the hole that we have dug with the "cheaper is
better" mindframe.

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