Sorry Travis, but you are dead wrong about 802.11 not being able to scale beyond 20 users, especially with 802.11a. I explained how it can be done to you before and I have consulting clients with 10,000 plus users on their 802.11 based networks scaling right up to the same size as any Canopy or Trango network. You might not be able to get to 150 subs per AP, but you can certainly hit 50-75 per sector and offer service that is damn close and a far sight cheaper than what Canopy will do. I would take a StarOS a/b/g network over a Canopy system every day of the week.
As far as problems at AF09 - that is what you get when Canopy guys are running an 802.11 network. If I was running it with the proven equipment and deployment methods that many of us use on 802.11 networks, there would not have been any such problems. Just because the AF09 guys couldn't figure it out (or more likely didn't bother to try) doesn't mean that it can't be done right. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Travis Johnson wrote: > The problem will be that they are still plain 802.11 technology. There > is no polling or ARQ or FEC or anything else that makes technology like > Trango, Canopy and others work so well. We pulled all of our 802.11 > stuff down over 5 years ago. It does NOT scale. You will never get an AP > with reliable, consistent service with more than 20 users. > > In fact, I think we witnessed this at AF09. Everyone connected to the > same AP (48 I think was the count) and we continually got disconnected > and the speeds and latency were terrible. Could there be a better "real > world" experience than that? :) > > Travis > Microserv > > Jerry Richardson wrote: > >> All I can do is shake my head. Ubiquity seems to have acquired some >> Area51 technology..... >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Jerry Richardson >> airCloud Communications >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:42 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review... >> >> I deployed my first Bullet5 today. Not the high power, but the >> standard. >> >> throughput testing showed insignificant difference between my >> Star-OS/WAR1 >> combo and the Bullet. The AP shows that the Bullet has active >> compression >> and fast frames that functions with my star-os access point. >> >> I have not tried the narrower channels to see if they're compatible with >> my star-os AP's. >> >> They have been certified with up to 30 db antennas. >> >> Summary... 1 bullet5, 1 pacwireless 25 db grid w/pigtail, 1 universal >> mount = very cheap 5 ghz cpe - about $130 - 140 complete. Even >> nicer??? >> >> The bullet slides down INTO the universal mount pipe, becoming invisible >> after you mount and aim it. >> >> Just FYI... The Bullet does NAT and has a DHCP server built in. No >> need >> for a router, allows you to have a fully routed network. >> >> Opinion.... I like them. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> <insert witty tagline here> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
