Hi, I can tell you right now I have a written quote from a distributor/reseller for quantity 200 radios at less than $200 each.
The other company I was speaking about is doing 1,000 installs per month. $160 per radio is the number I have heard (and seems reasonable based on that quantity compared to my pricing at 200 radios). Travis Microserv Chuck Hogg wrote: > The cheapest I have ever seen large bulk distributor pricing with > buyback money is a little over $200 per SM except 900Mhz. Now, if you > are looking at the Lite version SM's they certainly can be had for > cheaper. All these WISPs claiming cheaper price is not telling the > truth. Even Motorola disputes the price when questioned (yes I am a > distributor of Motorola products too). Ask that WISP to buy 100 packs > from them for me, I'll pay a 10% premium! > > > > Also, I agree with both of you here. Having both 900MHz Trango and > 2.4Ghz MikroTik, the Trango performs very impressively with >50 clients > per AP. I have a few AP's that are currently 100+ and they don't drop > packets, and the latency is great in comparison. However, properly > maintained 802.11 networks do pretty well also, but I don't see them > outperforming what Trango does on clients per AP level. > > > > Regards, > > Chuck Hogg > > Avolutia, LLC > 502-722-9292 > ch...@avolutia.com > > http://www.avolutia.com > > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:34 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review... > > > > Matt, > > I know we have already discussed this several times, and I'm not sure we > need to do it again... but maybe you could explain how you could have > setup a plain 802.11g wireless AP so that each client (using all > different kinds of wireless adapters) could have gotten equal bandwidth > and latency at AF09? > > And, once again, I have done test after test after test using 802.11 > stuff... and every single time (using Mikrotik without Nstreme, using > StarOS, using OSBridge and using Nanostations) if we setup an AP and we > connect two clients with laptops and start a continuous upload, the > other client is basically dead in the water. Even if we limit the upload > to 2Mbps or 3Mbps, when that client starts the upload, the other client > has very high latency, very bad download speeds, etc. > > As for price on Canopy vs. 802.11... things are not always as they seem. > I know of a large Canopy operator that is buying radios for $160 each. > ;) > > And, we have Trango AP's that only deliver 5Mbps total with 128 clients > and we deliver 4ms latency to every single client. > > Travis > Microserv > > Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: > > Sorry Travis, but you are dead wrong about 802.11 not being able to > scale beyond 20 users, especially with 802.11a. I explained how it can > > be done to you before and I have consulting clients with 10,000 plus > users on their 802.11 based networks scaling right up to the same size > as any Canopy or Trango network. You might not be able to get to 150 > subs per AP, but you can certainly hit 50-75 per sector and offer > service that is damn close and a far sight cheaper than what Canopy will > > do. I would take a StarOS a/b/g network over a Canopy system every day > of the week. > > As far as problems at AF09 - that is what you get when Canopy guys are > running an 802.11 network. If I was running it with the proven > equipment and deployment methods that many of us use on 802.11 networks, > > there would not have been any such problems. Just because the AF09 > guys couldn't figure it out (or more likely didn't bother to try) > doesn't mean that it can't be done right. > > Matt Larsen > vistabeam.com > > > Travis Johnson wrote: > > > The problem will be that they are still plain 802.11 technology. > There > is no polling or ARQ or FEC or anything else that makes > technology like > Trango, Canopy and others work so well. We pulled all of our > 802.11 > stuff down over 5 years ago. It does NOT scale. You will never > get an AP > with reliable, consistent service with more than 20 users. > > In fact, I think we witnessed this at AF09. Everyone connected > to the > same AP (48 I think was the count) and we continually got > disconnected > and the speeds and latency were terrible. Could there be a > better "real > world" experience than that? :) > > Travis > Microserv > > Jerry Richardson wrote: > > > > All I can do is shake my head. Ubiquity seems to have > acquired some > Area51 technology..... > > > > > __________________________________ > Jerry Richardson > airCloud Communications > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:42 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review... > > I deployed my first Bullet5 today. Not the high power, > but the > standard. > > throughput testing showed insignificant difference > between my > Star-OS/WAR1 > combo and the Bullet. The AP shows that the Bullet has > active > compression > and fast frames that functions with my star-os access > point. > > I have not tried the narrower channels to see if they're > compatible with > my star-os AP's. > > They have been certified with up to 30 db antennas. > > Summary... 1 bullet5, 1 pacwireless 25 db grid > w/pigtail, 1 universal > mount = very cheap 5 ghz cpe - about $130 - 140 > complete. Even > nicer??? > > The bullet slides down INTO the universal mount pipe, > becoming invisible > after you mount and aim it. > > Just FYI... The Bullet does NAT and has a DHCP server > built in. No > need > for a router, allows you to have a fully routed network. > > Opinion.... 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