John,

Is this with diversity antennas?

Chuck

On Apr 23, 2009, at 4:41 PM, John Scrivner wrote:

> I was not saying you CANNOT possibly do that distance. It was being
> referenced as a typical cell radius spec for discussion here and
> frankly that is unrealistic. I find that everyone in roughly a quarter
> mile radius can get our 3650 WiMax service regardless of terrain and
> obstacles in the way. It will penetrate a forest at that distance from
> my experience. Beyond that you need at least partial LOS. After about
> 1.5 miles radius you better have good LOS out to as far as you wish to
> set your timing to allow for proper ACK signaling. I think we have
> ours set to about 6 miles max or so. Our longest CPE connection
> distance is about 3/4 of a mile right now. The WiMax service runs
> flawlessly. We have it positioned as a top of the line service for our
> leased line style customers. One of them bought both leased line and
> WiMax from us. We nearly doubled our monthly ARPU on that one.  :-)
> It took 3 customers to pay for our WiMax installation here with an 18
> month payout. We sold those in the first 2 months. That is not too
> shabby!   :-)
> Scriv
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected] 
> > wrote:
>> I can do almost 20 km with 5 GHz, why can't I with 3650?
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "John Scrivner" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:32 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Patrick Leary <[email protected] 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the compliment Daniel, but please God, let's not have  
>>>> anyone
>>>> thinking they can build a 30 km radius cell with our stuff or  
>>>> anyone's
>>>> stuff in WiMAX. I don't care if you can see your dog running away  
>>>> for
>>>> three days it is so flat and the sun always shines and the wind is
>>>> always at your back -- I know of no PMP situation where such a cell
>>>> should ever be built.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Leary
>>>> Aperto Networks
>>>> 813.426.4230 mobile
>>>
>>> Thanks Patrick. It took me a long time to get past the original  
>>> snake
>>> oil mentality of WiMax proponents when they were claiming 70  
>>> megabits
>>> out 70 miles. I went through a phase of being dead set against WiMax
>>> because I thought the culture lacked integrity over all the false
>>> hype. Then I began reading the real story of what made 802.16
>>> technology tick. The more I read the more I decided that it really  
>>> is
>>> a sound technology. I eventually bought a system from Redline and  
>>> have
>>> been quite happy with the results. It is nice to be able to go  
>>> into my
>>> higher end business customers and tell them I can deliver more for
>>> their money through the air than cable and DSL can bring to the  
>>> table.
>>> That is TRUE. The service flows capability alone make WiMax worth  
>>> the
>>> extra bucks.
>>>
>>> Now fast forward to this thread. I have seen my WiMax vendor of  
>>> choice
>>> bashed by another vendor rep. I have seen the same person claiming  
>>> 20
>>> to 30km sized cells in 3650 which is not a reasonable expectation.  
>>> It
>>> makes me sick to my stomach. We should expect that people will act
>>> with respect and integrity on industry list servers. Let's  
>>> straighten
>>> up folks.
>>> Scriv
>>>
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Chuck Bartosch
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