Ah. Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.
RickG wrote: > Having an AUP is fine but it doesnt spell out the terms of a specific > obligation between you & the end user. The big carriers obligate you > to two year contracts when you agree online so I'm assuming we can do > the same. > -RickG > > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Charles Wyble<[email protected]> wrote: >> The big carriers don't require a signature on a contract. They also >> don't do (free/near free) installs either. I don't know if there is a >> signed contract if you pay for an install. >> >> Yes I realize this is a very important differentiator that we can >> provide, however I don't feel a signed contract is necessary. An AUP is >> an excellent idea as a general rule, however if they are transiting bits >> on your network, you have the right and obligation to defend that >> network. If you don't, you risk other operators dropping traffic from >> your IP rnage /AS. >> >> >> Your free to enforce your AUP with impunity. Failure to do so is the >> sole reason that "bits of evil" reach our border routers. A few simple >> route filters, and spam/botnets would be stopped. Subscribe to the Don't >> Route Or Peer List from Spamhaus >> (http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/index.lasso), and monitor outbound traffic. >> >> >> *sighs* >> >> >> >> Martha Huizenga wrote: >>> Exactly, we send the contract with the install and then get it back when >>> the install is done. Works fine. >>> >>> Jason Hensley wrote: >>>> Wow. Seems like a waste of time and resources. If I mailed contracts like >>>> that here I'd lose half my install opportunities because they would never >>>> send the contract back. Send a contract with the installer, get them to >>>> sign it before they install, give one copy to customer, bring one back, >>>> done >>>> deal. If nothing else, get an electronic as an initial confirmation, then >>>> get an actual signature at install. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Scott Reed >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 6:42 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: [WISPA] Electronic Signatures >>>> >>>> We currently use a two-year contract for customers. Right now we gather >>>> the information, generate a contract, USMail it to the customer and wait >>>> for them to USMail it back after they sign it before we schedule an >>>> installation. We would like to reduce the time from initial contact to >>>> installation. One option we are looking at is "electronic signature" on >>>> the contract. We have done some research into doing this, but thought it >>>> would be good to get some other input. >>>> If you do electronic signatures, how do you do it? >>>> If you use a third party to "certify" the signatures, who do you use? >>>> What is good about them? What is not so good? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
