Generators are not illegal on roof tops.  The once-hospital here has an
enormous diesel one straight above me!  It is now a multi-tenant building
for businesses and residents.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Tom DeReggi <[email protected]>wrote:

> While on the topic of generators.....
>
> Anyone have advice on how to accommodate generators in Commercial
> Multi-tenant buildings.
>
> Several things come to mind... Gas generators are definately not allowed on
> roofs, for fire safety reasons.
> Adequate ventilation is likely needed for either gas or Propain generators.
>
> What type propain generators would likely gain permission to get installed
> in a rooftop penthouse? or Roof?
>
> If a propain generator was used on a top floor, how would Propain get
> re-fueled easilly?
> Is is standard proceedure to have removable tanks, and just have new tanks
> swapped (like a gas grill).?
> Or is is customary to have tanks on the ground level?
> Or is it always standard to put the generator at ground level, and run AC
> wire up to the roof level?
> Do propain gas trucks have long enough hoses to reach rooms inside parking
> garages? Not likely will fit driving into parking garage?
>
> Do property owners worry about propain blowing up, and have limits to where
> the tanks can be placed?
>
> I'm sure some of this is in local building code.  And I can probably best
> guess some of the answers for above.
>
> But what re other people doing, to both install and maintain at the lowest
> dollar cost.?
>
> I saw those Generac propain models before, and they are very affordable.
> Just wondering if feasible to install them on roofs/penthouses.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Richardson" <[email protected]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator
>
>
> > Thank you,
> > That is very good advice. After some research, I'm leaning toward a UPS.
> >
> > A pair of good AGM batteries and charge controller will cost less and be
> > far less maintainence. Then I'd just run the CMM off the batteries @
> > 24VDC.
> >
> > Thanks again
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > Behalf Of Gary Garrett
> > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:59 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator
> >
> > Small generators do not auto start very reliably.
> > When cold or dampness causes hard starting the starter can overheat and
> > burn out. Generally you need an electric choke to start gas engines,
> > propane can "flood" and need to rest before trying again, diesel can be
> > REAL hard to start when cold. Auto starters can not adapt to changing
> > conditions.
> > Our best generator is a Propane Ford inline 6 cyl. 25 KW 3 phase. (1955
> > Model)
> > The monitor cranks for 1 min then rests and tries 3 times. Everything is
> > adjustable. It knows to stop cranking when it sees AC voltage from the
> > Gen. so the motor over runs the starter for just a few seconds. Only a
> > huge starter motor can take this abuse and last unattended.
> >
> > You may be money ahead to find out why the existing generator is not
> > starting and get it fixed.
> >
> > Jerry Richardson wrote:
> >> We rent on a tower that is suspposed to have gen-set backup but it does
> >> not start reliably.
> >>
> >> Any recommendations on a small auto-start generator? We only need to
> >> power a CMMmicro - ~100watts.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
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