Yea, we solder and heat shrink the ends on all our tower gear. Less problems, but still doesn't stop direct strikes, lol.
Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 [email protected] http://www.shelbybb.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik Yea... I don't think it's black, just how the picture was taken. It's usually a silver or gold wire, seperate from the others and not insulated. Sometimes it's stranded as opposed to being solid. You don't necessarily have to solder it - but make sure it's got a good electrical connection to the shielded RJ45 connector. And that the shield of the RJ45 connector has a good electrical connection to the boards plug. And the antenna to the board. And the RJ45 to the POE, and POE to ground. You get the idea. Like I said, we have thousands of these in service in Colorado--all that use shielded cable have no problems at all. Those that don't are guaranteed problems sooner or later. Our Costa Rica operation doesn't use shielded cable (supposedly it's too costly to import), so everytime there's a storm dozens of boards are thrown away. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>wrote: > *Face plant* > > Never heard of those before... > > I'm assuming the black wire in this picture is the drain wire? It doesn't > drain water, but is conductive - is this right? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FTP_cable3.jpg > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Jayson Baker <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Uhm, if you use shielded cable, you must use shielded connectors. > > Using unshielded connectors, with shielded cable, is like having a 100' > > long > > lightning/static pickup cable that will drain right into your board. > > > > Shielded connectors, shielded cable, drain wire soldered on, into a good > > grounded POE injector == no problems for many years > > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman < > [email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > You lost me - drain wire? Soldered onto a plastic rj45? > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > 1100 Wayne St > > > Suite 1337 > > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > > improbable, must be the truth." > > > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Jayson Baker <[email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > We also solder the drain wire from the cable onto the RJ45 connector > > > after > > > > we crimp it on. > > > > Key is to ensure you have a good ground from A to Z. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Josh Luthman < > > > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am using shielded cable and Pac POEs andd lost all 3 APs here a > few > > > > > weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > On 8/3/09, Jayson Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Try using shielded cable, and you won't have a problem. > > > > > > We're installed thousands in Colorado (second worst lightning in > > the > > > > > > country, next to Florida) and everytime we install without > shielded > > > > > > cable-it's junk after a storm. We use shielded cable on ALL > > > > > > installs-customer installs as well. And the good grounded > > > PacWireless > > > > > POE > > > > > > injectors. With thousands in service, it's rare we get a > lightning > > > > > related > > > > > > service call. > > > > > > We justify the extra couple dollars in cable by saving the cost > of > > > > truck > > > > > > rolls, replacement equipment, and unhappy customers. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Every 133 I used had a problem. Be it software, hardware, DOA, > > > > > lightning, > > > > > >> whatever. Out of dozens out there none survived and were > > replaced, > > > > > >> necessarily, by a newer board. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Josh Luthman > > > > > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > > > > > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > > > >> 1100 Wayne St > > > > > >> Suite 1337 > > > > > >> Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, > > > however > > > > > >> improbable, must be the truth." > > > > > >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Dennis Burgess < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > >> >wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Nothing that I have seen. Sure they were not repackaged by > your > > > > > vendor? > > > > > >> > And/or like I suggested overclocked. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > > > > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto: > > > [email protected] > > > > ] > > > > > On > > > > > >> > Behalf Of Forbes Mercy > > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:53 PM > > > > > >> > To: WISPA General List > > > > > >> > Subject: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Is anybody having problems with R433AH's Microtik cards out of > > the > > > > box > > > > > >> > lately? We purchased four this year so far and one beeped > once > > > only > > > > > on > > > > > >> > 18v not higher or loser voltages but it never beeped twice or > > got > > > to > > > > > an > > > > > >> > interface we could use. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > We just installed another one and it now is giving kernel > errors > > > and > > > > > >> > unless authenticate all is on everyone loses registration > every > > > few > > > > > >> > hours. We updated the firmware but with no positive result. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > My costs for tower climbers and anger from the 150 customers > on > > > the > > > > > >> > radio that went bad the day after we installed it is getting > > > costly > > > > > and > > > > > >> > wearing on my staff. We're going back right now to reinstall > > the > > > > old > > > > > >> > 133 board. 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