Mmm so the recommended cable for PTP600, the superior essex bbdge or
something, doesn't have this wire but is shielded.  What's the purpose
of the drain wire if the shielding and connectors are what's
grounding?

On 8/3/09, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote:
> Yes, but in most shielded cable we get, the drain wire is just a bare,
> silver wire inside the cover like that one.
>
> If you aren't grounding that, you aren't really doing anything but wasting
> money on cable... :(
>
> Travis
>
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> *Face plant*
>>
>> Never heard of those before...
>>
>> I'm assuming the black wire in this picture is the drain wire?  It doesn't
>> drain water, but is conductive - is this right?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FTP_cable3.jpg
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>> improbable, must be the truth."
>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Jayson Baker
>> <jay...@spectrasurf.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Uhm, if you use shielded cable, you must use shielded connectors.
>>> Using unshielded connectors, with shielded cable, is like having a 100'
>>> long
>>> lightning/static pickup cable that will drain right into your board.
>>>
>>> Shielded connectors, shielded cable, drain wire soldered on, into a good
>>> grounded POE injector == no problems for many years
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You lost me - drain wire?  Soldered onto a plastic rj45?
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>>>> improbable, must be the truth."
>>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We also solder the drain wire from the cable onto the RJ45 connector
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> after
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> we crimp it on.
>>>>> Key is to ensure you have a good ground from A to Z.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using shielded cable and Pac POEs andd lost all 3 APs here a few
>>>>>> weeks ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/3/09, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try using shielded cable, and you won't have a problem.
>>>>>>> We're installed thousands in Colorado (second worst lightning in
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> country, next to Florida) and everytime we install without shielded
>>>>>>> cable-it's junk after a storm.  We use shielded cable on ALL
>>>>>>> installs-customer installs as well.  And the good grounded
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PacWireless
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> POE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> injectors.  With thousands in service, it's rare we get a lightning
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> related
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> service call.
>>>>>>> We justify the extra couple dollars in cable by saving the cost of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> truck
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rolls, replacement equipment, and unhappy customers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Every 133 I used had a problem.  Be it software, hardware, DOA,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lightning,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> whatever.  Out of dozens out there none survived and were
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> replaced,
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> necessarily, by a newer board.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> however
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> improbable, must be the truth."
>>>>>>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Dennis Burgess <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nothing that I have seen.  Sure they were not repackaged by your
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> vendor?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And/or like I suggested overclocked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ]
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:53 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Defective Microtik
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is anybody having problems with R433AH's Microtik cards out of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> box
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> lately?  We purchased four this year so far and one beeped once
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> only
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 18v not higher or loser voltages but it never beeped twice or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> got
>>>
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> an
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> interface we could use.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We just installed another one and it now is giving kernel errors
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> unless authenticate all is on everyone loses registration every
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> few
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hours.  We updated the firmware but with no positive result.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My costs for tower climbers and anger from the 150 customers on
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> radio that went bad the day after we installed it is getting
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> costly
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wearing on my staff.  We're going back right now to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> old
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 133 board.  Any others having these problems?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Forbes Mercy
>>>>>>>>> President - Washington Broadband, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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