The shield does just that - shield, i.e. from interference. The drain wire does just that - drains errant static buildup, etc.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: > Mmm so the recommended cable for PTP600, the superior essex bbdge or > something, doesn't have this wire but is shielded. What's the purpose > of the drain wire if the shielding and connectors are what's > grounding? > > On 8/3/09, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: > > Yes, but in most shielded cable we get, the drain wire is just a bare, > > silver wire inside the cover like that one. > > > > If you aren't grounding that, you aren't really doing anything but > wasting > > money on cable... :( > > > > Travis > > > > > > Josh Luthman wrote: > >> > >> *Face plant* > >> > >> Never heard of those before... > >> > >> I'm assuming the black wire in this picture is the drain wire? It > doesn't > >> drain water, but is conductive - is this right? > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FTP_cable3.jpg > >> > >> Josh Luthman > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> 1100 Wayne St > >> Suite 1337 > >> Troy, OH 45373 > >> > >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > >> improbable, must be the truth." > >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Jayson Baker > >> <jay...@spectrasurf.com>wrote: > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Uhm, if you use shielded cable, you must use shielded connectors. > >>> Using unshielded connectors, with shielded cable, is like having a 100' > >>> long > >>> lightning/static pickup cable that will drain right into your board. > >>> > >>> Shielded connectors, shielded cable, drain wire soldered on, into a > good > >>> grounded POE injector == no problems for many years > >>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > >>> > >>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> You lost me - drain wire? Soldered onto a plastic rj45? > >>>> > >>>> Josh Luthman > >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>>> 1100 Wayne St > >>>> Suite 1337 > >>>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>>> > >>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > >>>> improbable, must be the truth." > >>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> We also solder the drain wire from the cable onto the RJ45 connector > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> after > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> we crimp it on. > >>>>> Key is to ensure you have a good ground from A to Z. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Josh Luthman < > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > >>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am using shielded cable and Pac POEs andd lost all 3 APs here a > few > >>>>>> weeks ago. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 8/3/09, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Try using shielded cable, and you won't have a problem. > >>>>>>> We're installed thousands in Colorado (second worst lightning in > >>>>>>> > >>> > >>> the > >>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> country, next to Florida) and everytime we install without shielded > >>>>>>> cable-it's junk after a storm. We use shielded cable on ALL > >>>>>>> installs-customer installs as well. And the good grounded > >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> PacWireless > >>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> POE > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> injectors. With thousands in service, it's rare we get a lightning > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> related > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> service call. > >>>>>>> We justify the extra couple dollars in cable by saving the cost of > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> truck > >>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> rolls, replacement equipment, and unhappy customers. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman > >>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Every 133 I used had a problem. Be it software, hardware, DOA, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> lightning, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> whatever. Out of dozens out there none survived and were > >>>>>>>> > >>> > >>> replaced, > >>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> necessarily, by a newer board. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman > >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St > >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 > >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, > >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> however > >>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> improbable, must be the truth." > >>>>>>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Dennis Burgess < > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> dmburg...@linktechs.net > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Nothing that I have seen. Sure they were not repackaged by your > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> vendor? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> And/or like I suggested overclocked. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ] > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Forbes Mercy > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:53 PM > >>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List > >>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Is anybody having problems with R433AH's Microtik cards out of > >>>>>>>>> > >>> > >>> the > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> box > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> lately? 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