There are clamps designed specifically for cable with no drain wire. But I can't find the ones I used for BDDN cable right now.
Josh Luthman wrote: > So the superior essex cabling with no drain wire is no good? > > On 8/3/09, Jayson Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The shield does just that - shield, i.e. from interference. >> The drain wire does just that - drains errant static buildup, etc. >> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >>> Mmm so the recommended cable for PTP600, the superior essex bbdge or >>> something, doesn't have this wire but is shielded. What's the purpose >>> of the drain wire if the shielding and connectors are what's >>> grounding? >>> >>> On 8/3/09, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, but in most shielded cable we get, the drain wire is just a bare, >>>> silver wire inside the cover like that one. >>>> >>>> If you aren't grounding that, you aren't really doing anything but >>>> >>> wasting >>> >>>> money on cable... :( >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>>> *Face plant* >>>>> >>>>> Never heard of those before... >>>>> >>>>> I'm assuming the black wire in this picture is the drain wire? It >>>>> >>> doesn't >>> >>>>> drain water, but is conductive - is this right? >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FTP_cable3.jpg >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >>>>> improbable, must be the truth." >>>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Jayson Baker >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Uhm, if you use shielded cable, you must use shielded connectors. >>>>>> Using unshielded connectors, with shielded cable, is like having a >>>>>> 100' >>>>>> long >>>>>> lightning/static pickup cable that will drain right into your board. >>>>>> >>>>>> Shielded connectors, shielded cable, drain wire soldered on, into a >>>>>> >>> good >>> >>>>>> grounded POE injector == no problems for many years >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You lost me - drain wire? Soldered onto a plastic rj45? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >>>>>>> improbable, must be the truth." >>>>>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Jayson Baker <[email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We also solder the drain wire from the cable onto the RJ45 connector >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> after >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> we crimp it on. >>>>>>>> Key is to ensure you have a good ground from A to Z. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am using shielded cable and Pac POEs andd lost all 3 APs here a >>>>>>>>> >>> few >>> >>>>>>>>> weeks ago. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 8/3/09, Jayson Baker <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Try using shielded cable, and you won't have a problem. >>>>>>>>>> We're installed thousands in Colorado (second worst lightning in >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> country, next to Florida) and everytime we install without >>>>>>>>>> shielded >>>>>>>>>> cable-it's junk after a storm. We use shielded cable on ALL >>>>>>>>>> installs-customer installs as well. And the good grounded >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> PacWireless >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> POE >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> injectors. With thousands in service, it's rare we get a >>>>>>>>>> lightning >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> service call. >>>>>>>>>> We justify the extra couple dollars in cable by saving the cost of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> truck >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> rolls, replacement equipment, and unhappy customers. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Every 133 I used had a problem. Be it software, hardware, DOA, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> lightning, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> whatever. Out of dozens out there none survived and were >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> replaced, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> necessarily, by a newer board. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> however >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> improbable, must be the truth." >>>>>>>>>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Dennis Burgess < >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing that I have seen. 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