Agreed, we use this fact as a selling point against the large LECs.  AT&T is
great, but they can "break" too.  If that's all you got then you're down for
the count.  

In comparison we (and many other smaller players like us) aggregate multiple
"Tier1" carriers so that our customers realize those benefits.  If and when
one of our "Tier1" upstream providers has a problem our clients largely
never see it.  Traffic simply adjusts and works around the problem until
they get it fixed.

Best,


Brad


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

Tier 1 is fairly meaningless.  In many cases, tier 2 bandwidth is better 
quality than tier 1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network though I'm not sure how current 
that is.


-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "Matt" <lm7...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:20 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

>> Yup. We pay almost 800 bucks for 20/20 meg. To not do any shaping we 
>> would
>
> Thats cheap compared to what we pay!  You are paying about $40 a meg.
> Is that tier1 bandwidth?  We are paying about $100 meg for tier1.
>
> Matt
>
>> have to charge way more than anyone will pay. Take the 800 bucks split by
>> 20 then add overhead costs and it's too much to bear. Bandwidth that will
>> handle 500+ customers with shaping would then, if totally net neutral, 
>> only
>> go to 20 customers or less. To be true net neutral is just to pass all 
>> the
>> traffic through with no touching it. Reasonable network management, as 
>> Josh
>> says, is pretty broad in definition.
>
>
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