No!  We don't hit it at all wirelessly, I had Time Warner do a normal copper
install there and tied it into the front desk and some wireless repeaters.
It's the County Hearth, used to be the Amerihost.  We did one of his
properties here in town and he liked it and had us do that one as well.  A
pretty good drive away though!  We monitor from here just through the
internet.  That one was my first pain in the ass due to their, then,
DirectPC system for the reservations.  Was both uplink and downlink and it
kept knocking out our frequency.  Oh, what I would have given for a spectrum
analyzer back then!





-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:52 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

You can hit St. Mary's?  How can you hit the Best Value Inn there?  It's
across the street from the Ford dealership.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Robert West
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Ah!  Now that's cool!  They charge me $15.00 for more IP's but will go to
> 10
> bucks if I buy a block of 50.  I don't because for one, I'm cheap and
> another is because I'm cheap.  As in, we don't charge that much.  If
> someone
> wants one we'll just pass the cost on to them.  I have a hotel I take care
> of way out in St. Marys, near Wapakoneta, that we have just regular copper
> going to and the salesman threw a bunch of public IPs in to try to seal
the
> deal, I suppose only I kept telling him I only need 2, one for the router
> and one for the camera system.  So they have 15 public ip's and no, Time
> Warner says I can't use them on any other modem or router.  Whatever.
> Giving them out like that, in my case, is no wonder why the IP pools is
> almost dried up.
>
> Ask around, maybe they have the cheaper rate there as well and the
salesman
> is hosing you and making himself feel better with the unlimited IP's.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality
>
> Robert - I too am using TWC fiber.  They let me get as many public IPs as
I
> want, though.  Have you tried to called them up and filled out their
public
> IP form for more?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Robert West
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > That's Time Warner fiber with 15 public IPs.  I totally acknowledge how
> > lucky we are to have such a rate here.  We are actually to have some
> > cheaper
> > fiber coming into the area which I'll try to snag as a secondary access
> or
> > maybe even primary and dump the snail pace DSL.  I will not gloat, I
feel
> > for anyone with expensive broadband.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > Behalf Of Matt
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:20 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality
> >
> > > Yup.  We pay almost 800 bucks for 20/20 meg.  To not do any shaping we
> > would
> >
> > Thats cheap compared to what we pay!  You are paying about $40 a meg.
> > Is that tier1 bandwidth?  We are paying about $100 meg for tier1.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > > have to charge way more than anyone will pay.  Take the 800 bucks
split
> > by
> > > 20 then add overhead costs and it's too much to bear.  Bandwidth that
> > will
> > > handle 500+ customers with shaping would then, if totally net neutral,
> > only
> > > go to 20 customers or less.  To be true net neutral is just to pass
all
> > the
> > > traffic through with no touching it.  Reasonable network management,
as
> > Josh
> > > says, is pretty broad in definition.
> >
> >
> >
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