As they say "YMMV". Really its all dependent on your local market. Back in '97, there was no DSL or cable. So, I had a monopoly and the only alternative was to get a T1 at $3500/month. It was an easy sell. There are a lot of great thinkers on this list. They'll help keep you clean :) -RickG
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM, George Morris <ghmor...@candlelight.ca>wrote: > Very good point Josh, it would be unfortunately to have a pro-consumer > initiative backfire because of a flaky implementation. > > I need to think on this some more. It may be enough to start with just to > ignore bandwidth used during the Moonlighting window. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:06 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing > > That would work. The only thing you'd need to test is the clients you're > using. It would be up to the client to sense being disconnected and > attempt > a (re?)connection. > > You can charge them for that but then you have to worry about customers > getting itchy F-U fingers. The DSL/Cable/alternative guys don't do this to > me! > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 2:58 PM, George Morris > <ghmor...@candlelight.ca>wrote: > > > That's interesting. So in theory we could just script a 'flicker' at the > > APs > > at Midnight, and another 'flicker' at 6am to get the settings to change > at > > the client... > > > > Good idea! Thanks Josh. > > > > George > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:41 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing > > > > In PPPOE you should be able to just kill the connection and the client > > should reestablish a moment afterward. I know it works this way with MT > > PPPOE server/client. > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > > --- Albert Einstein > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 2:38 PM, George Morris > > <ghmor...@candlelight.ca>wrote: > > > > > Rick, did you have a self-serve portal where your customers could check > > > ongoing usage? > > > > > > We are implementing IPtrack, same as Marlon. Brandon will build a > > > self-service portal for us. > > > > > > We are also going to implement something called 'Moonlighting', where > we > > > don't count bandwidth from Midnight to 6am in an effort to move some > > heavy > > > traffic onto the dead period on our network. > > > > > > Makes tiered pricing easier to swallow... > > > > > > What I would really like to do is allow a speed increase at the same > > time, > > > to give people a taste of our more advanced services. > > > > > > Unfortunately I have no idea how to make that happen in a PPPoE > > environment > > > without forcing people to disconnect and re-login. > > > > > > George > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:33 PM > > > To: WISPA General List > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing > > > > > > Travis, I was operating on the premise that you said to send them to > DSL > > or > > > cable. > > > Even with that, I did not have that experience. We sent the invoices > out > > > with a copy of their usage report and it was rarely, if ever > questioned. > > > -RickG > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: > > > > > > > And deal with the extra phone calls each month from customers that > > claim > > > > they didn't use that much. :( > > > > > > > > Travis > > > > Microserv > > > > > > > > RickG wrote: > > > > > > > > Many of you know this is not that hard. Back in 1997 I had an Allot > box > > > that > > > > gave me the numbers. All I did was pull the report and bill > > accordingly. > > > The > > > > hard part would be integrating it with a billing system so it does it > > > > automatically. -RickG > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Eric Rogers < > ecrog...@precisionds.com> > > > <ecrog...@precisionds.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are on the verge of changing to a metered or tiered billing > > structure > > > > with Caps that once they exceed the cap; it doesn't shut off, but > they > > > > get charged the overage. Netflix is getting out of control and I > don't > > > > want to punish the customers that only use it occasionally. I think > > > > they are very innovative solutions and don't want to hinder new > > > > applications. 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