Great example? Apparently you haven't seen the pictures. :-p
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan Spott" <rsp...@cspott.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:12 AM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids > Marlon, > > I think the issues you have here are common ones wether or not computers, > hotmail, myspace or facebook are involved. They are just parent child > issues. > > I used to be a technology coordinator for a school district. If you place > security software on the machines, it will be worked around in minutes. > The > best thing I ever did was remove all of the stuff blocking everything, > turned all of the machines around so I could see all the screens in the > classrooms from the position you were teaching from and then put out the > word in a whisper campaign that "The School Tech guy can see EVERYTHING!" > :) > This also works in corp environments... a quick walk into the > sheep-porn-surfing-CFOs office with a stern "I see everything... and I > mean > everything" stops that stuff cold! > > > > In my personal life (I still consider myself young) I found that trust > between parent and kid was the best method. > > The best thing my mother did was sit down with me one day and just tell me > some of the crazy (s**t)... er things she did when "she was my age"... > After > hearing of: > -The occasional kegger in the woods with her girlfriends (pull '69 Lincoln > into the beer warehouse, place kegs in back seat, fill back seat with ice, > go to party...) > -Dating and all the things that went on with that. > -Dating my dad (stop mom, I don't want to hear that!!) > -disagreements with her parents. > -occasional trouble in school. > -etc, etc, etc.. > I really started being really open with my mother because I knew that the > things I was doing (staying out late occasionally, hanging out with > friends, > the occasional bottle of Boones grape flavored wine...) were minor things > that she had done and were not as shocking to her as I thought. > > Because she was open with me about the good decisions and the bad ones she > made, I was open with her. This open communication allows me to ask her > advice on _ANYTHING_ because she was, and is not, judging me. While I have > not always taken her advice, it has helped me make decisions from my > teenage > years till now... > > Of course. As it should be, when I was doing something that my mother > would > think was 'bad' the guilt would make me stop... > > When my now 7 year old is a bit older, my wife and I have agreed to share > all of our life experiences with her. Good or bad. Sometimes it helps to > know your parents were not saints and did make mistakes. We hope she comes > to us with her problems, not so we can judge her, but so we can offer her > our advice. > > We hope she learns from our mistakes. I want her to be the kid that calls > me > when she is drunk at 17 to come pick her up, rather than driving home to > hide the fact she is drunk. I want her to know that there will be A HELL > OF > ALOT MORE trouble if my fire pager goes off and I have to cut her out of > her > car in the middle of the night than there would be if she pukes in my back > seat. > > AAAANNNNDDD That was way too much information to give out on the list. I > think I might need a new group-ther...@wispa.org list-serv! > > Good luck Marlon, from a former teenage domestic terrorist all I can say > is > I am pretty sure your kid will survive... and prosper... I mean, you are > his > dad and you are a great example to follow! > > I have to go now. I need to call my mom! :) > > ryan > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > <o...@odessaoffice.com>wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from having email >> addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having myspace, >> facebook etc. sites. >> >> If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check on. >> >> If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I* can >> delete things from. >> >> I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet that >> might >> bite them in the butt later. The days of people eventually forgetting >> the >> stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. >> >> Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used a hotmail email >> address to get it. He had permission to use neither of them. I finally >> found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what he'd >> been >> saying. His trash and sent messages had both been erased between when I >> got >> the password out of him and when I had time to check on it. (I didn't >> know >> that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get on the net >> and >> work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) >> >> So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the >> deleted >> information. I explained that I was the father of a minor and that he >> had >> no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being >> hidden >> from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email >> address. >> >> They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue. >> However >> they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!! They had NO >> proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify that the child was >> over >> 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the account >> information! "go get it from your teen" is basically what I was told. >> >> WTF is this??????? Absolutly amazing. >> >> So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your kids >> these >> days? >> >> thanks >> marlon >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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