We taken the other route. My son got his own domain, he got his own e-mail
for his domain. Allowed him a Facebook account he have to have us as friends
and we know the password. I get a copy (unknown by him) of any e-mails going
to his e-mail account. We had the talk about proper online behavior such as
never to share contact information such as address and phone number. 
He got his own netbook and itouch used to be limited what he could do by a
software but it had so much flaws we disabled it (windows account is a
limited account so can't install software). The router (mikrotik) logs the
addresses he is visiting thanks to webproxy setup. On the itouch he do not
have setup so he can install programs himself but he will ask and so far
only been one app we wouldn't install (comic reader that could access as
adult type comics and explained to him why wouldn't allow that one but found
another software that would allow comic access but without adult content). 

So far so good. Daughter also got her own netbook but still using the
software on it and it works best for her for now because it "simplifies"
things on it for her. 

We tried the other way around with the older kids and it didn't work to
great to be honest and was why the webproxy got setup in the first place and
wish that XP been the OS back then so we could have given them limited
access to windows but that was back in the days of 98. 

/ Eje

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

Hi All,

Here's the scenario.  My kids are expressly forbidden from having email 
addresses outside my domain.  They are forbidden from having myspace, 
facebook etc. sites.

If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check on.

If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I* can 
delete things from.

I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet that might 
bite them in the butt later.  The days of people eventually forgetting the 
stupidity of youth or passion are long gone.

Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account.  He used a hotmail email 
address to get it.  He had permission to use neither of them.  I finally 
found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what he'd been 
saying.  His trash and sent messages had both been erased between when I got

the password out of him and when I had time to check on it.  (I didn't know 
that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get on the net and

work on his page, talk to his friends etc.  deep sigh)

So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the deleted

information.  I explained that I was the father of a minor and that he had 
no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being hidden 
from me.  I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email address.

They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue.  However 
they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!!  They had NO 
proof of age etc. on the account.  Nothing to verify that the child was over

18 etc.  And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the account 
information!  "go get it from your teen" is basically what I was told.

WTF is this???????  Absolutly amazing.

So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your kids these 
days?

thanks
marlon



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