When I was a Qwest Install Manager, I had a folder that I called, "Never
Gonna Happen".  Mostly very rural areas with zero facilities yet the sales
department were very optimistic.

The best one that comes to mind was a company called Austin Powder.  They
make explosives so they tend to locate their facilities WAY out in the
middle of nowhere.  "A T-1 out in the desert, 50 miles from any phone line?
SURE!"

Bob-


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?

In my previous life as an AT&T Cellular switch manager, we had
hundreds of T1's & T3's ordered that never came in - yes, I mean
never. And we practically had a blank check!
-RickG

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann <kh...@fire2wire.com>
wrote:
> After about a year of getting the same response from AT&T after multiple
> order requests at different locations across our network, the guy in
> charge of building out fiber for the region called and said "what in the
> world are you guys doing?!?"  He ended up giving us the location of a
> few fiber terminals in the area.  We found the ones closest to our
> network, made an agreement with a tenant nearby, and did a wireless PtP
> to connect it to our network.
>
> Moral of the story, we were shooting in the dark until we had an "in" in
> the right department at AT&T.
>
> On a related note, does anyone have an experience with Charter's fiber
> services?
>
>
> --
> Kristian Hoffmann
> System Administrator
> kh...@fire2wire.com
> http://www.fire2wire.com
>
> Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE
>
>
> On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 22:33 -0500, Roger Howard wrote:
>> Quick alert to those who are not aware... back when I was running my
>> business on T1 lines, I just assumed that when I was ready, I could
>> order a T3 and upgrade my bandwidth. Not so.
>>
>> Just because you can get a T1 doesn't mean you can get a T3 without
>> huge buildout costs. I was quoted $400,000 dollars to upgrade to a T3.
>> I managed to get around it because otherwise AT&T would have had to
>> install a high count copper line down my road to be able to keep
>> offering POTS service here, so I got lucky, and had a free install.
>> But you may not be that fortunate.
>>
>> I just thought if I posted this, it might give some people a heads up
>> to start planning for more bandwidth when you're coming close to
>> needing t3 type capacity.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roger
>>
>>
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