But interestingly enough, I had many phone calls from inside the manhole in
Manhattan.  NO PLACE TO CONNECT!  HA!   It was either no facilities existing
or all facilities taken.  The East coast always sucked.

Bob-



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?

LOL! Ya, we had some overly optimistic carriers alright. Trying to get T1's
at cell towers in the middle of cornfield was a challenge. But wait, it gets
better - E911 came along and we had to get addresses for the tower - lol!

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Robert West <[email protected]>
wrote:
> When I was a Qwest Install Manager, I had a folder that I called, 
> "Never Gonna Happen".  Mostly very rural areas with zero facilities 
> yet the sales department were very optimistic.
>
> The best one that comes to mind was a company called Austin Powder.  
> They make explosives so they tend to locate their facilities WAY out 
> in the middle of nowhere.  "A T-1 out in the desert, 50 miles from any
phone line?
> SURE!"
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:20 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
>
> In my previous life as an AT&T Cellular switch manager, we had 
> hundreds of T1's & T3's ordered that never came in - yes, I mean 
> never. And we practically had a blank check!
> -RickG
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> After about a year of getting the same response from AT&T after 
>> multiple order requests at different locations across our network, 
>> the guy in charge of building out fiber for the region called and 
>> said "what in the world are you guys doing?!?"  He ended up giving us 
>> the location of a few fiber terminals in the area.  We found the ones 
>> closest to our network, made an agreement with a tenant nearby, and 
>> did a wireless PtP to connect it to our network.
>>
>> Moral of the story, we were shooting in the dark until we had an "in" 
>> in the right department at AT&T.
>>
>> On a related note, does anyone have an experience with Charter's 
>> fiber services?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kristian Hoffmann
>> System Administrator
>> [email protected]
>> http://www.fire2wire.com
>>
>> Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 22:33 -0500, Roger Howard wrote:
>>> Quick alert to those who are not aware... back when I was running my 
>>> business on T1 lines, I just assumed that when I was ready, I could 
>>> order a T3 and upgrade my bandwidth. Not so.
>>>
>>> Just because you can get a T1 doesn't mean you can get a T3 without 
>>> huge buildout costs. I was quoted $400,000 dollars to upgrade to a T3.
>>> I managed to get around it because otherwise AT&T would have had to 
>>> install a high count copper line down my road to be able to keep 
>>> offering POTS service here, so I got lucky, and had a free install.
>>> But you may not be that fortunate.
>>>
>>> I just thought if I posted this, it might give some people a heads 
>>> up to start planning for more bandwidth when you're coming close to 
>>> needing t3 type capacity.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>
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