LOL! Ya, we had some overly optimistic carriers alright. Trying to get
T1's at cell towers in the middle of cornfield was a challenge. But
wait, it gets better - E911 came along and we had to get addresses for
the tower - lol!

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> wrote:
> When I was a Qwest Install Manager, I had a folder that I called, "Never
> Gonna Happen".  Mostly very rural areas with zero facilities yet the sales
> department were very optimistic.
>
> The best one that comes to mind was a company called Austin Powder.  They
> make explosives so they tend to locate their facilities WAY out in the
> middle of nowhere.  "A T-1 out in the desert, 50 miles from any phone line?
> SURE!"
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:20 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
>
> In my previous life as an AT&T Cellular switch manager, we had
> hundreds of T1's & T3's ordered that never came in - yes, I mean
> never. And we practically had a blank check!
> -RickG
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann <kh...@fire2wire.com>
> wrote:
>> After about a year of getting the same response from AT&T after multiple
>> order requests at different locations across our network, the guy in
>> charge of building out fiber for the region called and said "what in the
>> world are you guys doing?!?"  He ended up giving us the location of a
>> few fiber terminals in the area.  We found the ones closest to our
>> network, made an agreement with a tenant nearby, and did a wireless PtP
>> to connect it to our network.
>>
>> Moral of the story, we were shooting in the dark until we had an "in" in
>> the right department at AT&T.
>>
>> On a related note, does anyone have an experience with Charter's fiber
>> services?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kristian Hoffmann
>> System Administrator
>> kh...@fire2wire.com
>> http://www.fire2wire.com
>>
>> Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 22:33 -0500, Roger Howard wrote:
>>> Quick alert to those who are not aware... back when I was running my
>>> business on T1 lines, I just assumed that when I was ready, I could
>>> order a T3 and upgrade my bandwidth. Not so.
>>>
>>> Just because you can get a T1 doesn't mean you can get a T3 without
>>> huge buildout costs. I was quoted $400,000 dollars to upgrade to a T3.
>>> I managed to get around it because otherwise AT&T would have had to
>>> install a high count copper line down my road to be able to keep
>>> offering POTS service here, so I got lucky, and had a free install.
>>> But you may not be that fortunate.
>>>
>>> I just thought if I posted this, it might give some people a heads up
>>> to start planning for more bandwidth when you're coming close to
>>> needing t3 type capacity.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>
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