Usually if nat is the problem it causes one way audio not poor audio quality.  

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On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Glenn Kelley <gl...@hostmedic.com> wrote:

> I would agree - it for sure is not all adapters. 
> 
> Another alternative is to run a simple stunnel service for your clients 
> 
> On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> 
>>> ALL VOIP Adapters & Phones, Do not like Double Natting....
>> 
>> Absolutely not true.  I personally have many SPA2100 (same thing as
>> spa2102 or pap2t-na in this discussion) that go:
>> 
>> Public ip -> IS Rebel, nat 1 -> customer radio, nat 2 -> customer soho
>> router, nat 3 -> ATA
>> 
>> It is more dependent on your voice gateway then it is the ATA, in my
>> experience.  Asterisk wouldn't work at all.  Genband has been flawless
>> since July 2006.  The phone room has a dozen of these little adapters
>> and we've never had problems with them, only issue was a customer had
>> some cheap phone and needed to replace it.
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
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>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Glenn Kelley <gl...@hostmedic.com> wrote:
>>> I think it is time to perhaps subnet them and give them a /29
>>> a /30 might work as well - but thinking /29 would simply be much more
>>> friendly
>>> Than simply allow them to use the equipment up to as a router (depending on
>>> your equipment this may not be possible)
>>> nat on nat on Nat is really stinky
>>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> 
>>> They are natting three times at the customer site?!  Get them closer
>>> to your network, I'm sure at least one of those routers is causing
>>> hell.
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Martha Huizenga <mar...@dcaccess.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Voice quality. It breaks up. I will have to ask if they can hear me alright.
>>> 
>>> I had trouble with understanding them.
>>> 
>>> Update: they have two vonage boxes (two phone lines). Neither are off the
>>> 
>>> main router. all the routers (three) are hard wired together.
>>> 
>>> Martha
>>> 
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>>> On 8/19/2010 11:24 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
>>> 
>>> What problems are they having. Is it voice quality, incoming voice, outgoing
>>> 
>>> voice, no dial tone.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Martha Huizenga <mar...@dcaccess.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi all,
>>> 
>>> We have a client that has Vonage and is having problems. When his office was
>>> 
>>> somewhere else we gave him a separate router for the vonage box and one for
>>> 
>>> Internet. At his new office, in his home carriage house the set up is as
>>> 
>>> follows:
>>> 
>>> Antenna on the roof comes into the house to a router. Then that router is
>>> 
>>> connected to another repeater in the carriage house that is connected to the
>>> 
>>> Vonage box.
>>> 
>>> I am thinking this is too many hops for Vonage? But hoping someone else has
>>> 
>>> a better understanding of this.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Martha
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