NAT itself, yes, but with the cheap $60 routers I'm sure they
manipulate all kinds of things.

Josh Luthman
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jeremie Chism <[email protected]> wrote:
> Usually if nat is the problem it causes one way audio not poor audio
> quality.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Glenn Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I would agree - it for sure is not all adapters.
> Another alternative is to run a simple stunnel service for your clients
> On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> ALL VOIP Adapters & Phones, Do not like Double Natting....
>
> Absolutely not true.  I personally have many SPA2100 (same thing as
> spa2102 or pap2t-na in this discussion) that go:
>
> Public ip -> IS Rebel, nat 1 -> customer radio, nat 2 -> customer soho
> router, nat 3 -> ATA
>
> It is more dependent on your voice gateway then it is the ATA, in my
> experience.  Asterisk wouldn't work at all.  Genband has been flawless
> since July 2006.  The phone room has a dozen of these little adapters
> and we've never had problems with them, only issue was a customer had
> some cheap phone and needed to replace it.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Glenn Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think it is time to perhaps subnet them and give them a /29
>
> a /30 might work as well - but thinking /29 would simply be much more
>
> friendly
>
> Than simply allow them to use the equipment up to as a router (depending on
>
> your equipment this may not be possible)
>
> nat on nat on Nat is really stinky
>
> On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> They are natting three times at the customer site?!  Get them closer
>
> to your network, I'm sure at least one of those routers is causing
>
> hell.
>
> Josh Luthman
>
> Office: 937-552-2340
>
> Direct: 937-552-2343
>
> 1100 Wayne St
>
> Suite 1337
>
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Martha Huizenga <[email protected]>
>
> wrote:
>
> Voice quality. It breaks up. I will have to ask if they can hear me alright.
>
> I had trouble with understanding them.
>
> Update: they have two vonage boxes (two phone lines). Neither are off the
>
> main router. all the routers (three) are hard wired together.
>
> Martha
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> On 8/19/2010 11:24 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
>
> What problems are they having. Is it voice quality, incoming voice, outgoing
>
> voice, no dial tone.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Martha Huizenga <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> hi all,
>
> We have a client that has Vonage and is having problems. When his office was
>
> somewhere else we gave him a separate router for the vonage box and one for
>
> Internet. At his new office, in his home carriage house the set up is as
>
> follows:
>
> Antenna on the roof comes into the house to a router. Then that router is
>
> connected to another repeater in the carriage house that is connected to the
>
> Vonage box.
>
> I am thinking this is too many hops for Vonage? But hoping someone else has
>
> a better understanding of this.
>
> Thanks
>
> Martha
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