Whenever the customer has VoIP and the ATA has a router, we try to put the ATA first. Saves a lot of heartache.
-Cameron On 8/19/2010 3:31 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: > Agreed. If the ata has a built in router I try to connect it in front of the > customer router to take advantage of the built in qos. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman<[email protected]> wrote: > >> NAT itself, yes, but with the cheap $60 routers I'm sure they >> manipulate all kinds of things. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jeremie Chism<[email protected]> wrote: >>> Usually if nat is the problem it causes one way audio not poor audio >>> quality. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Glenn Kelley<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I would agree - it for sure is not all adapters. >>> Another alternative is to run a simple stunnel service for your clients >>> On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> ALL VOIP Adapters& Phones, Do not like Double Natting.... >>> >>> Absolutely not true. I personally have many SPA2100 (same thing as >>> spa2102 or pap2t-na in this discussion) that go: >>> >>> Public ip -> IS Rebel, nat 1 -> customer radio, nat 2 -> customer soho >>> router, nat 3 -> ATA >>> >>> It is more dependent on your voice gateway then it is the ATA, in my >>> experience. Asterisk wouldn't work at all. Genband has been flawless >>> since July 2006. The phone room has a dozen of these little adapters >>> and we've never had problems with them, only issue was a customer had >>> some cheap phone and needed to replace it. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Glenn Kelley<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I think it is time to perhaps subnet them and give them a /29 >>> >>> a /30 might work as well - but thinking /29 would simply be much more >>> >>> friendly >>> >>> Than simply allow them to use the equipment up to as a router (depending on >>> >>> your equipment this may not be possible) >>> >>> nat on nat on Nat is really stinky >>> >>> On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> They are natting three times at the customer site?! Get them closer >>> >>> to your network, I'm sure at least one of those routers is causing >>> >>> hell. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> >>> Suite 1337 >>> >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Martha Huizenga<[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Voice quality. It breaks up. I will have to ask if they can hear me alright. >>> >>> I had trouble with understanding them. >>> >>> Update: they have two vonage boxes (two phone lines). Neither are off the >>> >>> main router. all the routers (three) are hard wired together. >>> >>> Martha >>> >>> Martha Huizenga >>> >>> DC Access, LLC >>> >>> 202-546-5898 >>> >>> Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet! >>> >>> Connecting the Capitol Hill Community >>> >>> Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter >>> >>> On 8/19/2010 11:24 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: >>> >>> What problems are they having. Is it voice quality, incoming voice, outgoing >>> >>> voice, no dial tone. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Martha Huizenga<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> hi all, >>> >>> We have a client that has Vonage and is having problems. When his office was >>> >>> somewhere else we gave him a separate router for the vonage box and one for >>> >>> Internet. At his new office, in his home carriage house the set up is as >>> >>> follows: >>> >>> Antenna on the roof comes into the house to a router. Then that router is >>> >>> connected to another repeater in the carriage house that is connected to the >>> >>> Vonage box. >>> >>> I am thinking this is too many hops for Vonage? 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