Agreed. If the ata has a built in router I try to connect it in front of the customer router to take advantage of the built in qos.
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: > NAT itself, yes, but with the cheap $60 routers I'm sure they > manipulate all kinds of things. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jeremie Chism <[email protected]> wrote: >> Usually if nat is the problem it causes one way audio not poor audio >> quality. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Glenn Kelley <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I would agree - it for sure is not all adapters. >> Another alternative is to run a simple stunnel service for your clients >> On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >> ALL VOIP Adapters & Phones, Do not like Double Natting.... >> >> Absolutely not true. I personally have many SPA2100 (same thing as >> spa2102 or pap2t-na in this discussion) that go: >> >> Public ip -> IS Rebel, nat 1 -> customer radio, nat 2 -> customer soho >> router, nat 3 -> ATA >> >> It is more dependent on your voice gateway then it is the ATA, in my >> experience. Asterisk wouldn't work at all. Genband has been flawless >> since July 2006. The phone room has a dozen of these little adapters >> and we've never had problems with them, only issue was a customer had >> some cheap phone and needed to replace it. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Glenn Kelley <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I think it is time to perhaps subnet them and give them a /29 >> >> a /30 might work as well - but thinking /29 would simply be much more >> >> friendly >> >> Than simply allow them to use the equipment up to as a router (depending on >> >> your equipment this may not be possible) >> >> nat on nat on Nat is really stinky >> >> On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >> They are natting three times at the customer site?! Get them closer >> >> to your network, I'm sure at least one of those routers is causing >> >> hell. >> >> Josh Luthman >> >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> >> 1100 Wayne St >> >> Suite 1337 >> >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Martha Huizenga <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> Voice quality. It breaks up. I will have to ask if they can hear me alright. >> >> I had trouble with understanding them. >> >> Update: they have two vonage boxes (two phone lines). Neither are off the >> >> main router. all the routers (three) are hard wired together. >> >> Martha >> >> Martha Huizenga >> >> DC Access, LLC >> >> 202-546-5898 >> >> Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet! >> >> Connecting the Capitol Hill Community >> >> Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter >> >> On 8/19/2010 11:24 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: >> >> What problems are they having. Is it voice quality, incoming voice, outgoing >> >> voice, no dial tone. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Martha Huizenga <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> hi all, >> >> We have a client that has Vonage and is having problems. When his office was >> >> somewhere else we gave him a separate router for the vonage box and one for >> >> Internet. At his new office, in his home carriage house the set up is as >> >> follows: >> >> Antenna on the roof comes into the house to a router. Then that router is >> >> connected to another repeater in the carriage house that is connected to the >> >> Vonage box. >> >> I am thinking this is too many hops for Vonage? 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