How do you handle the customers who then put a link sys behind your provided
router?

From:  Darin Steffl <[email protected]>
Reply-To:  WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Date:  Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:38 PM
To:  WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

> I understand not wanting to touch the router but I want to control everything
> up until I hand off to the customer's equipment which means I provide the
> router.  I hear from too many people that blame their ISP like Charter or the
> phone company for bad internet when much of the time it is their own wireless
> router.  That same bad mouthing will happen for my company if the customer
> continues to use crappy routers so I thought I would provide one to them,
> configure it, lock it, and replace it if it ever fails.  That way, I am
> handing out something reliable that works and if they need help, I'm there to
> fix it for them.  In my opinion, that should cut down on tech support calls if
> the router is stable.
> 
> I am currently testing the Ubiquiti Airrouters and the TP-Link TL-WR841N
> 
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> 
>> I would avoid the 751 for now based on my hell of an experience.  That's just
>> me.
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2012 6:27 PM, "Justin Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> My Take on routers.
>>> 
>>> Off the shelf routers are the #1 trouble issue on the Zig network.  Anything
>>> from gaming issues, to speed issues, to reliability issues. They account for
>>> roughly 92% of all calls.  The first thing we have the customer do after
>>> reboots of everything is bypass the router. Most of the time this shows the
>>> customer it's their router, or something behind it.
>>> 
>>> In our past life we started out selling routers. We looked for the cheapest
>>> ones we could find, which at the time were dlink. What we found was
>>> customers then considered that our equipment. "Well the router you sold me
>>> went out." was something we heard a lot. Or "I reset the router now you have
>>> to come out and configure it"
>>> 
>>> What we are doing this time around is we have only one officially approved
>>> router. The Mikrotik 751. We have a local computer shop which stocks them
>>> and sets them up.  What he does as far as support is between him and the
>>> customer. I am pretty sure he tells them he is just a retailer for the
>>> product and if they want his help he will gladly charge them his hourly
>>> rate. All about expectations up front.
>>> 
>>> By doing all of this we are not in the router business, but the customer
>>> gets a solid product and cuts down on our calls. In turn we have a happier
>>> customer base. And if need be, we can actually login to their router and do
>>> torch, etc.
>>> 
>>> Justin
>>> 
>>> From:  Darin Steffl <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To:  WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>> Date:  Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:31 PM
>>> To:  <[email protected]>
>>> Subject:  [WISPA] Customer Routers
>>> 
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>> 
>>>> What are some of you providing for customer wireless routers if you include
>>>> them in the install as I do?  I currently have a batch of 10 Ubiquiti Air
>>>> Routers and the first two I pulled out are giving me some problems.  Could
>>>> be a bad batch.
>>>> 
>>>> I am also looking at TP-Link as they are about $30 on Amazon with external
>>>> antennas and pretty good reviews.
>>>> 
>>>> TP-Link TL-WR841N
>>>> 
>>>> What are you guys using?
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Darin Steffl
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