I don’t know if it’s clarified enough for anyone else.  It didn’t really worry 
me too much one way or the other.  I did go look at your website to see what 
prices your plan were when you posted that the other day and figured you were 
probably pushing $80 ARPU.  That would be even nicer if you could cut your 
monthly bandwidth costs of course.

Yes, the thread was about credit card processors but people seemed to quickly 
veer off into Quickbooks vs billing software and how you can get rid of staff.

In regards to the actual thread, we use Authorize.net as the gateway and 5/3 
Bank for the processor.  We’re not charging from QB though.  Rates I think vary 
depending on the card type but we mostly between 2-3% I think.  Partly we’re 
still with them because we like their policies.  They have statements that make 
balancing easier since they charge the % off the total, not each transaction 
like some do.  I should put a disclaimer that I haven’t been actually involved 
with the statements for a few years now so it’s possible they’ve changed them.  
I haven’t heard any complaints about it though.



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 12:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WISPA] credit card processors

For clarification, the pricing we have right now for 650 is the same pricing we 
would have at GigE. Over GigE would be slightly lower. I mean seriously, is 
that clarified enough? Does it matter when the thread is about credit card 
processors?

Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 08/01/2014 07:35 AM, James Howard wrote:
Actually, you responded “Yup, per month” when TJ asked if it was “$66,500 for a 
gige” so you strongly implied it.  I agree that you didn’t technically say that 
you actually pay that much though.   I do have to admit that $42k per month is 
still a pretty heft bill!


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 3:00 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] credit card processors

Note, I didn't say we were paying 65k/mo for bandwidth, I said we were paying 
65/Mbps. We normally don't use more than 480-ish at peak, but have 650Mbps, 
which includes transport and content.

We should break around 1.5M gross this year, and projected 2.2M by next year, 
give or take.

Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 07/31/2014 09:21 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
How can you employ 9 people and pay 65k a month for bandwidth and turn a profit?

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:15 PM, TJ Trout 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You have 5 field techs and 4 office people with 1500 subs? Profit must be slim

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Two people answering 4 phone lines? :) We may end up having to hire another 
office person just to deal with commercial sales as things stand. I get pretty 
tied up with ERate/USDA/etc stuff, Aaron is busy with financing, long term 
market strategies in new areas, etc. This is with 5 people out in the field at 
any given time.


Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 07/31/2014 07:23 PM, Adair Winter wrote:

We are half your size and two of us do everything you state, thanks to 
powercode. We use quick books for payroll and odd invoicing/accounting stuff.
On Jul 31, 2014 7:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The in house billing / accounting people - we have several, most are multi-role.

One is our office manager, and deals primarily with billing issues, new account 
sales, equipment purchasing, etc. He is also our main office-based POC for tech 
support.

Then we have a bookkeeper, she deals with things on the "interior" business 
side... employee pay stuff, shareholder/board functions, stock certificate 
crap, meeting minutes, etc.

We have another part-timer who also helps with sales / collections / etc, 
answering phones, (we have 4 lines plus tech support phone that rotates between 
the salaried employees) [we do have a collections company people get sent to 
after 90 days, we cut people off at 60 days]

People that want to review their payment histories, in our experience, normally 
want an explanation of their billing cycle, etc... they come in when they want 
that. One time payments are done online, but some people keep an account with 
us and call to process (we don't keep their card info).

Paypal does all of our unifi hotspot stuff, and auto-drops right into 
QuickBooks.

We're around 1500 subs, and incorporated.

Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 07/31/2014 04:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
When they don't pay they get shut off.
They can review their payment histories.
They can change their billing information (and do one-time payments) without 
affecting your employees.
You could probably drop the in-house billing/accounting people.
Hotspot type services can integrate right into the same platform (without 
needing UniFi's walled garden).

I suspect most of us still use QuickBooks, just not for our recurring business. 
I still use it for turn-key, consulting, etc.

Even if you don't buy, I'd recommend having each of the billing platforms take 
you on a tour. You may notice other things to improve your operation.


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From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:09:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] credit card processors
May I ask why?

Most of our subs are on autopay, so we set it and forget about it.

We also do all of our company stuff in quickbooks, and have inhouse 
billing/accounting people.

Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 07/31/2014 04:08 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I second Steve's comment.


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From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:05:30 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] credit card processors

Yes, we've been doing it for about... 10 years now.

Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com>

On 07/31/2014 03:56 PM, Steve Barnes wrote:
> Josh are you billing your Wisp customer with QuickBooks? I would stop that 
> practice. Get a billing system and keep QuickBooks for AP and GL.
>
> Steve Barnes
> PCSWIN.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:09 PM
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> Subject: [WISPA] credit card processors
>
> Who are using for credit card processing, and why? What are your rates?

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