I know you guys can not grant every wish. Is AppleScript support for Mac OS
X and Witango truly dropped?  The new AppleScript is so much more powerful
than the old it would be a shame to not have it.

Jose


on 6/2/02 10:52 AM, Phil Wade at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am continually amazed at how so much can be read into so little.
> 
> FileMaker will be supported in version 5 and into the future and we do not
> see FileMaker features being removed.  We will infact be extending the
> existing FileMaker functionality from using Apple Events to cdml in the near
> future.  We are working with FileMaker to continue to enhance the Witango
> for FileMaker edition.  FileMaker is a great product, if you are happy with
> FileMaker and it meets your needs, keep using it as we will continue to
> support it. 
> 
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> On 2/6/02 11:56 PM, "Stephen.Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Phil:
>> Thanks for the update. Sadly, we suppose from this "suggestion" that FMP
>> will NOT be supported by WiTango v5. While FMP is not SQL, and far to
>> many developers ridicule the program, in many cases it provides
>> outstanding, dependable and easy to produce solutions to cross-platform
>> client needs. AND, many of us have invested considerable time, effort and
>> monies in developing those solutions, with the assistance of Tango App
>> Server. It would be a terrible shame to suggest that all of these
>> developers' efforts were now just water over the bridge - worthless.
>> There is much promise in anticipated features in FMP v6, and FMP v5.5
>> contained many enhancements that made the program even more valuable than
>> its predecessors, including its enhanced XML capabilities.
>> 
>> Let's hope that this is not a true reflection of the FMP-WiTango
>> relationship - as divorce is such an ugly (and expensive) proposition.
>> Stephen
>> 
>>> We currently have the Witango Dev Studio for OSX working with iODBC
>>> (www.iodbc.org) connecting to MySQL, PostgreSQL and MS SQL 6.5, 7 and 2000.
>>> 
>>> You can download and install it easily.  The openlink drivers (commercial)
>>> can be downloaded and used with it and we have found the MS SQL driver is
>>> quite solid.  An alternative if you are only wanting to use MySQL and
>>> PostgreSQL is the unixODBC (www.unixODBC.org) driver or a binary release can
>>> be purchaesd and downloaded from http://www.thekompany.com/products/macodbc/
>>> for the enormours expense of $9.95  ;).  If you do not pay for the macODBC
>>> version, there are a few tricks to get unixODBC up and running from the
>>> source as it is not specifically  modified to understand the OS X
>>> environment like iODBC is, but it works fine for PostgreSQL and MyODBC
>>> (mySQL) - it is just more unix like than mac like.
>>> 
>>> iODBC is already distributed as a OS X framework which is great and one of
>>> our engineers is colaborating with the unixODBC port to get unixODBC into an
>>> OS X framework.  Once this happens, the Dev Studio will be able to use
>>> either and you will have a choice.  In fact, the way we have redesigned the
>>> OS X Dev Studio, you should be able to use any ODBC driver that is
>>> constructed and distributed as a framework.
>>> 
>>> We are currently working on an FAQ for installing iODBC and unixODBC on OSX.
>>> 
>>> For those using Butler and Filemaker, MySQL is a great db that scales better
>>> than either butler or FileMaker.  There are a some good utilities coming out
>>> that will give you a GUI to the db and save you from writing all the SQL
>>> statements.
>>> 
>>> There are commercial ODBC drivers from both OpenLink (released) and
>>> DataDirect Technologies (still in beta).  IMO Openlink is a little ahead of
>>> DataDirect in their OS X efforts and have a good understanding of the OS X
>>> environment.  There Oracle drive is just about here as well.  DataDirect
>>> Technologies are still in development with their darwin ODBC drivers which
>>> are due later this year, but the carbonised drivers are due for release
>>> shortly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Phil
>>> 
>>> On 2/6/02 12:24 PM, "Stephen.Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 5/14/02
>>>> August Software released updated Macintosh ODBC drivers for its ODBC
>>>> Router application that provides Macintosh access to databases through a
>>>> multi-threaded ODBC Windows server connection. The new drivers offer
>>>> increased support for the Tango 2000 Web Application Development Studio
>>>> by With Enterprises.
>>>> 
>>>> or
>>>> 
>>>> 5/9/02
>>>> iODBC.org has Mac OS X support in Version 3.0.6 of its iODBC (independent
>>>> Open Database Connectivity) development release, an open-source,
>>>> platform-independent implementation of both the ODBC and X/Open
>>>> specifications. At the same time, OpenLink Software has added Mac OS X
>>>> support to its ODBC drivers for MySQL, PostgreSQL, Sybase and MS
>>>> SQLServer, with Oracle drivers to follow in a few weeks.
>>>> 
>>>> Either should help with the ODBC issue
>>>> 
>>>>> Only problem could be ODBC
>>>>> See below:
>>>>> "Metro Technologies, L.L.C. ("Metro") ceased operations as of January 31,
>>>>> 2002 and is in the process of winding down its affairs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Metro would like to thank its customers and vendors for their past
>>>>> business
>>>>> and support.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you are a Metro Technologies customer or vendor and require additional
>>>>> information, please contact Russ Cerqua at 847/719-2280. Mr. Cerqua will
>>>>> be
>>>>> handling the winding down process for Metro.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have a technical question or a question regarding development
>>>>> services, please contact Gary Dotzlaw at 847/719-2280."
>>>>> 
>>>>> on 6/1/02 8:17 AM, Jason Pamental at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Roland,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I came across something last night that might make living with an SQL
>>>>>> database a little more palatable, and works with a number of different
>> db's:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.rtlabs.com/macsql/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The full version is about $250, but combined with a free database it
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> be a very cost-effective solution. I haven't tried it myself, but it
>>>>>> looks
>>>>>> promising.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (although the web interface to set up tables for Primebase is pretty easy
>> to
>>>>>> use)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/1/02 2:49 AM, "Roland Dumas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My path will likely be to switch to MySQL unless 4D comes to the table.
>> FMP
>>>>>>> seems to have been a dead end since v4 didn't evolve into a
>> multi-threaded
>>>>>>> db, but rather the kludged FMP-server with many instances of FMP client.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've been hoping all along that 4D would develop a native connection
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> Tango, but Pervasive wasn't very cooperative on that one. 4D being the
>>>>>>> logical heir to the FMP franchise.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (I'll try to install Primebase, but it looks expensive and arcane even
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> install on OS X, so it looks like MySQL)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> FMP may stay as an in-house interface, but I'd just as soon make it all
>> web
>>>>>>> and burn FMP. Why support two interfaces when you can do one?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/31/02 1:43 PM, "Stephen Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So Roland & others - Exactly what are we going to do with v5 and our FMP
>>>>>>> db's. Switch to an SQL and still use FMP as an order processing in-house
>>>>>>> interface? Is it true the WiTango v5 won't support FMP?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gosh, I hate to think of all the problems switching, but I need secure
>>>>>>> XML (https) to exchange data with UPS and USPS for shipping and must
>>>>>>> therefore have T-5.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And yes, the demo was very helpful
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stephen - http://onlytoys.com, a WiTango - MacOS - Filemaker site
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Whether it was used directly or not, it added a lot of value to the
>>>>>>> product.
>>>>>>> It's a good data model, good demo of incorporating business rules, and
>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>> off Tango well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was using Filemaker and the data model didn't translate well, but it
>>>> was
>>>>>>> extremely helpful in providing guidance to a first-time storefront
>>>> builder.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/31/02 9:18 AM, "Ritchie Carroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wow - that's cool!  I didn't know anyone even used that stuff, I wrote
>>>>>>> that StoreFront and all of its biz-rules for Pervasive and didn't know
>>>>>>> if anyone ever got any use our of it :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roland Dumas
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:11 AM
>>>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Shopping Cart
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, it did. Building one from scratch in Tango is also fairly
>>>>>>> straightforward with the various things you can easily do with an array.
>>>>>>> I created one to capture the business rules of the storefront better
>>>>>>> than a generic one (certain combinations yield different discounts,
>>>>>>> eligibilities,
>>>>>>> etc.)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/31/02 9:08 AM, "John Hollister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Didn't tango come with a complete shopping cart system?
>>>>>>> The store front demo, just a thought
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gene Wolf
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:45 AM
>>>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>>>>>>> Subject: Witango-Talk: Shopping Cart
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   I just got a call from a client and they want to set up an
>>>>>>> e-commerce site. Does anyone out there have a shopping cart system
>>>>>>> they'd be willing
>>>>>>> to sell to this client so it can be integrated into their current
>>>>>>> site?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   Please respond to me directly with any examples and prices. Thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   As Always,
>>>>>>>   Gene Wolf
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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