Connecting to FMP through apple events was how it was done not through AppleScript. This was always a very slow way to connect. ODBC or JDBC is much faster.
Again I think Phil was clear that AppleScript and event CDML ( God Help US) will be supported. Dan on 6/2/02 1:43 PM, Jose Kuhn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I guess am am one of those reading to much in to things. I saw that they > were dropping support for the AppleScript path to Filemaker pro. > > I also did not see in any of the posts of the conference there being mention > support for AppleScript in Mac OS X. Maybe I just missed it!! > > Jose > > > on 6/2/02 12:27 PM, Dan Stein at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Jose, >> Where do you see anything about dropping applescript in fact it seems Phil >> is specific about supporting it. >> " We will in fact be extending the >>>> existing FileMaker functionality from using Apple Events to cdml in the >>>> near >>>> future." >> seems to me to say the range of things and therefore includes AppleScript. >> >> That said: >> Phil it might be best to post a bulleted list of WiTango in relation to FMP >> issues or features. >> >> I for one look forward to using WiTango as my toll to put any database on >> the Web. >> >> >> >> >> >> on 6/2/02 11:41 AM, Jose Kuhn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> I know you guys can not grant every wish. Is AppleScript support for Mac OS >>> X and Witango truly dropped? The new AppleScript is so much more powerful >>> than the old it would be a shame to not have it. >>> >>> Jose >>> >>> >>> on 6/2/02 10:52 AM, Phil Wade at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>>> I am continually amazed at how so much can be read into so little. >>>> >>>> FileMaker will be supported in version 5 and into the future and we do not >>>> see FileMaker features being removed. We will infact be extending the >>>> existing FileMaker functionality from using Apple Events to cdml in the >>>> near >>>> future. We are working with FileMaker to continue to enhance the Witango >>>> for FileMaker edition. FileMaker is a great product, if you are happy with >>>> FileMaker and it meets your needs, keep using it as we will continue to >>>> support it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/6/02 11:56 PM, "Stephen.Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Phil: >>>>> Thanks for the update. Sadly, we suppose from this "suggestion" that FMP >>>>> will NOT be supported by WiTango v5. While FMP is not SQL, and far to >>>>> many developers ridicule the program, in many cases it provides >>>>> outstanding, dependable and easy to produce solutions to cross-platform >>>>> client needs. AND, many of us have invested considerable time, effort and >>>>> monies in developing those solutions, with the assistance of Tango App >>>>> Server. It would be a terrible shame to suggest that all of these >>>>> developers' efforts were now just water over the bridge - worthless. >>>>> There is much promise in anticipated features in FMP v6, and FMP v5.5 >>>>> contained many enhancements that made the program even more valuable than >>>>> its predecessors, including its enhanced XML capabilities. >>>>> >>>>> Let's hope that this is not a true reflection of the FMP-WiTango >>>>> relationship - as divorce is such an ugly (and expensive) proposition. >>>>> Stephen >>>>> >>>>>> We currently have the Witango Dev Studio for OSX working with iODBC >>>>>> (www.iodbc.org) connecting to MySQL, PostgreSQL and MS SQL 6.5, 7 and >>>>>> 2000. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can download and install it easily. The openlink drivers >>>>>> (commercial) >>>>>> can be downloaded and used with it and we have found the MS SQL driver is >>>>>> quite solid. An alternative if you are only wanting to use MySQL and >>>>>> PostgreSQL is the unixODBC (www.unixODBC.org) driver or a binary release >>>>>> can >>>>>> be purchaesd and downloaded from >>>>>> http://www.thekompany.com/products/macodbc/ >>>>>> for the enormours expense of $9.95 ;). If you do not pay for the >>>>>> macODBC >>>>>> version, there are a few tricks to get unixODBC up and running from the >>>>>> source as it is not specifically modified to understand the OS X >>>>>> environment like iODBC is, but it works fine for PostgreSQL and MyODBC >>>>>> (mySQL) - it is just more unix like than mac like. >>>>>> >>>>>> iODBC is already distributed as a OS X framework which is great and one >>>>>> of >>>>>> our engineers is colaborating with the unixODBC port to get unixODBC into >>>>>> an >>>>>> OS X framework. Once this happens, the Dev Studio will be able to use >>>>>> either and you will have a choice. In fact, the way we have redesigned >>>>>> the >>>>>> OS X Dev Studio, you should be able to use any ODBC driver that is >>>>>> constructed and distributed as a framework. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are currently working on an FAQ for installing iODBC and unixODBC on >>>>>> OSX. >>>>>> >>>>>> For those using Butler and Filemaker, MySQL is a great db that scales >>>>>> better >>>>>> than either butler or FileMaker. There are a some good utilities coming >>>>>> out >>>>>> that will give you a GUI to the db and save you from writing all the SQL >>>>>> statements. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are commercial ODBC drivers from both OpenLink (released) and >>>>>> DataDirect Technologies (still in beta). IMO Openlink is a little ahead >>>>>> of >>>>>> DataDirect in their OS X efforts and have a good understanding of the OS >>>>>> X >>>>>> environment. There Oracle drive is just about here as well. DataDirect >>>>>> Technologies are still in development with their darwin ODBC drivers >>>>>> which >>>>>> are due later this year, but the carbonised drivers are due for release >>>>>> shortly. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Phil >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/6/02 12:24 PM, "Stephen.Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 5/14/02 >>>>>>> August Software released updated Macintosh ODBC drivers for its ODBC >>>>>>> Router application that provides Macintosh access to databases through a >>>>>>> multi-threaded ODBC Windows server connection. The new drivers offer >>>>>>> increased support for the Tango 2000 Web Application Development Studio >>>>>>> by With Enterprises. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5/9/02 >>>>>>> iODBC.org has Mac OS X support in Version 3.0.6 of its iODBC >>>>>>> (independent >>>>>>> Open Database Connectivity) development release, an open-source, >>>>>>> platform-independent implementation of both the ODBC and X/Open >>>>>>> specifications. At the same time, OpenLink Software has added Mac OS X >>>>>>> support to its ODBC drivers for MySQL, PostgreSQL, Sybase and MS >>>>>>> SQLServer, with Oracle drivers to follow in a few weeks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Either should help with the ODBC issue >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Only problem could be ODBC >>>>>>>> See below: >>>>>>>> "Metro Technologies, L.L.C. ("Metro") ceased operations as of January >>>>>>>> 31, >>>>>>>> 2002 and is in the process of winding down its affairs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Metro would like to thank its customers and vendors for their past >>>>>>>> business >>>>>>>> and support. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you are a Metro Technologies customer or vendor and require >>>>>>>> additional >>>>>>>> information, please contact Russ Cerqua at 847/719-2280. Mr. Cerqua >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> handling the winding down process for Metro. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you have a technical question or a question regarding development >>>>>>>> services, please contact Gary Dotzlaw at 847/719-2280." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> on 6/1/02 8:17 AM, Jason Pamental at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Roland, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I came across something last night that might make living with an SQL >>>>>>>>> database a little more palatable, and works with a number of different >>>>> db's: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.rtlabs.com/macsql/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The full version is about $250, but combined with a free database it >>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>> be a very cost-effective solution. I haven't tried it myself, but it >>>>>>>>> looks >>>>>>>>> promising. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (although the web interface to set up tables for Primebase is pretty >>>>>>>>> easy >>>>> to >>>>>>>>> use) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6/1/02 2:49 AM, "Roland Dumas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My path will likely be to switch to MySQL unless 4D comes to the >>>>>>>>>> table. >>>>> FMP >>>>>>>>>> seems to have been a dead end since v4 didn't evolve into a >>>>> multi-threaded >>>>>>>>>> db, but rather the kludged FMP-server with many instances of FMP >>>>>>>>>> client. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've been hoping all along that 4D would develop a native connection >>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> Tango, but Pervasive wasn't very cooperative on that one. 4D being >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> logical heir to the FMP franchise. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (I'll try to install Primebase, but it looks expensive and arcane >>>>>>>>>> even >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> install on OS X, so it looks like MySQL) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FMP may stay as an in-house interface, but I'd just as soon make it >>>>>>>>>> all >>>>> web >>>>>>>>>> and burn FMP. Why support two interfaces when you can do one? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/02 1:43 PM, "Stephen Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So Roland & others - Exactly what are we going to do with v5 and our >>>>>>>>>> FMP >>>>>>>>>> db's. Switch to an SQL and still use FMP as an order processing >>>>>>>>>> in-house >>>>>>>>>> interface? Is it true the WiTango v5 won't support FMP? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Gosh, I hate to think of all the problems switching, but I need >>>>>>>>>> secure >>>>>>>>>> XML (https) to exchange data with UPS and USPS for shipping and must >>>>>>>>>> therefore have T-5. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And yes, the demo was very helpful >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Stephen - http://onlytoys.com, a WiTango - MacOS - Filemaker site >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Whether it was used directly or not, it added a lot of value to the >>>>>>>>>> product. >>>>>>>>>> It's a good data model, good demo of incorporating business rules, >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> shows >>>>>>>>>> off Tango well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I was using Filemaker and the data model didn't translate well, but >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> extremely helpful in providing guidance to a first-time storefront >>>>>>> builder. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/02 9:18 AM, "Ritchie Carroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wow - that's cool! I didn't know anyone even used that stuff, I >>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>> that StoreFront and all of its biz-rules for Pervasive and didn't >>>>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>>>> if anyone ever got any use our of it :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roland Dumas >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:11 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Shopping Cart >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, it did. Building one from scratch in Tango is also fairly >>>>>>>>>> straightforward with the various things you can easily do with an >>>>>>>>>> array. >>>>>>>>>> I created one to capture the business rules of the storefront better >>>>>>>>>> than a generic one (certain combinations yield different discounts, >>>>>>>>>> eligibilities, >>>>>>>>>> etc.) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/02 9:08 AM, "John Hollister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Didn't tango come with a complete shopping cart system? >>>>>>>>>> The store front demo, just a thought >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gene Wolf >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:45 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Witango-Talk: Shopping Cart >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I just got a call from a client and they want to set up an >>>>>>>>>> e-commerce site. Does anyone out there have a shopping cart system >>>>>>>>>> they'd be willing >>>>>>>>>> to sell to this client so it can be integrated into their current >>>>>>>>>> site? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please respond to me directly with any examples and prices. 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