Jose, Where do you see anything about dropping applescript in fact it seems Phil is specific about supporting it. " We will in fact be extending the >> existing FileMaker functionality from using Apple Events to cdml in the near >> future." seems to me to say the range of things and therefore includes AppleScript.
That said: Phil it might be best to post a bulleted list of WiTango in relation to FMP issues or features. I for one look forward to using WiTango as my toll to put any database on the Web. on 6/2/02 11:41 AM, Jose Kuhn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I know you guys can not grant every wish. Is AppleScript support for Mac OS > X and Witango truly dropped? The new AppleScript is so much more powerful > than the old it would be a shame to not have it. > > Jose > > > on 6/2/02 10:52 AM, Phil Wade at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I am continually amazed at how so much can be read into so little. >> >> FileMaker will be supported in version 5 and into the future and we do not >> see FileMaker features being removed. We will infact be extending the >> existing FileMaker functionality from using Apple Events to cdml in the near >> future. We are working with FileMaker to continue to enhance the Witango >> for FileMaker edition. FileMaker is a great product, if you are happy with >> FileMaker and it meets your needs, keep using it as we will continue to >> support it. >> >> >> Phil >> >> >> On 2/6/02 11:56 PM, "Stephen.Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Phil: >>> Thanks for the update. Sadly, we suppose from this "suggestion" that FMP >>> will NOT be supported by WiTango v5. While FMP is not SQL, and far to >>> many developers ridicule the program, in many cases it provides >>> outstanding, dependable and easy to produce solutions to cross-platform >>> client needs. AND, many of us have invested considerable time, effort and >>> monies in developing those solutions, with the assistance of Tango App >>> Server. It would be a terrible shame to suggest that all of these >>> developers' efforts were now just water over the bridge - worthless. >>> There is much promise in anticipated features in FMP v6, and FMP v5.5 >>> contained many enhancements that made the program even more valuable than >>> its predecessors, including its enhanced XML capabilities. >>> >>> Let's hope that this is not a true reflection of the FMP-WiTango >>> relationship - as divorce is such an ugly (and expensive) proposition. >>> Stephen >>> >>>> We currently have the Witango Dev Studio for OSX working with iODBC >>>> (www.iodbc.org) connecting to MySQL, PostgreSQL and MS SQL 6.5, 7 and 2000. >>>> >>>> You can download and install it easily. The openlink drivers (commercial) >>>> can be downloaded and used with it and we have found the MS SQL driver is >>>> quite solid. An alternative if you are only wanting to use MySQL and >>>> PostgreSQL is the unixODBC (www.unixODBC.org) driver or a binary release >>>> can >>>> be purchaesd and downloaded from >>>> http://www.thekompany.com/products/macodbc/ >>>> for the enormours expense of $9.95 ;). If you do not pay for the macODBC >>>> version, there are a few tricks to get unixODBC up and running from the >>>> source as it is not specifically modified to understand the OS X >>>> environment like iODBC is, but it works fine for PostgreSQL and MyODBC >>>> (mySQL) - it is just more unix like than mac like. >>>> >>>> iODBC is already distributed as a OS X framework which is great and one of >>>> our engineers is colaborating with the unixODBC port to get unixODBC into >>>> an >>>> OS X framework. Once this happens, the Dev Studio will be able to use >>>> either and you will have a choice. In fact, the way we have redesigned the >>>> OS X Dev Studio, you should be able to use any ODBC driver that is >>>> constructed and distributed as a framework. >>>> >>>> We are currently working on an FAQ for installing iODBC and unixODBC on >>>> OSX. >>>> >>>> For those using Butler and Filemaker, MySQL is a great db that scales >>>> better >>>> than either butler or FileMaker. There are a some good utilities coming >>>> out >>>> that will give you a GUI to the db and save you from writing all the SQL >>>> statements. >>>> >>>> There are commercial ODBC drivers from both OpenLink (released) and >>>> DataDirect Technologies (still in beta). IMO Openlink is a little ahead of >>>> DataDirect in their OS X efforts and have a good understanding of the OS X >>>> environment. There Oracle drive is just about here as well. DataDirect >>>> Technologies are still in development with their darwin ODBC drivers which >>>> are due later this year, but the carbonised drivers are due for release >>>> shortly. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> On 2/6/02 12:24 PM, "Stephen.Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 5/14/02 >>>>> August Software released updated Macintosh ODBC drivers for its ODBC >>>>> Router application that provides Macintosh access to databases through a >>>>> multi-threaded ODBC Windows server connection. The new drivers offer >>>>> increased support for the Tango 2000 Web Application Development Studio >>>>> by With Enterprises. >>>>> >>>>> or >>>>> >>>>> 5/9/02 >>>>> iODBC.org has Mac OS X support in Version 3.0.6 of its iODBC (independent >>>>> Open Database Connectivity) development release, an open-source, >>>>> platform-independent implementation of both the ODBC and X/Open >>>>> specifications. At the same time, OpenLink Software has added Mac OS X >>>>> support to its ODBC drivers for MySQL, PostgreSQL, Sybase and MS >>>>> SQLServer, with Oracle drivers to follow in a few weeks. >>>>> >>>>> Either should help with the ODBC issue >>>>> >>>>>> Only problem could be ODBC >>>>>> See below: >>>>>> "Metro Technologies, L.L.C. ("Metro") ceased operations as of January 31, >>>>>> 2002 and is in the process of winding down its affairs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Metro would like to thank its customers and vendors for their past >>>>>> business >>>>>> and support. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you are a Metro Technologies customer or vendor and require additional >>>>>> information, please contact Russ Cerqua at 847/719-2280. Mr. Cerqua will >>>>>> be >>>>>> handling the winding down process for Metro. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have a technical question or a question regarding development >>>>>> services, please contact Gary Dotzlaw at 847/719-2280." >>>>>> >>>>>> on 6/1/02 8:17 AM, Jason Pamental at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Roland, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I came across something last night that might make living with an SQL >>>>>>> database a little more palatable, and works with a number of different >>> db's: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.rtlabs.com/macsql/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The full version is about $250, but combined with a free database it >>>>>>> could >>>>>>> be a very cost-effective solution. I haven't tried it myself, but it >>>>>>> looks >>>>>>> promising. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (although the web interface to set up tables for Primebase is pretty >>>>>>> easy >>> to >>>>>>> use) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/1/02 2:49 AM, "Roland Dumas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My path will likely be to switch to MySQL unless 4D comes to the table. >>> FMP >>>>>>>> seems to have been a dead end since v4 didn't evolve into a >>> multi-threaded >>>>>>>> db, but rather the kludged FMP-server with many instances of FMP >>>>>>>> client. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been hoping all along that 4D would develop a native connection >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> Tango, but Pervasive wasn't very cooperative on that one. 4D being the >>>>>>>> logical heir to the FMP franchise. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (I'll try to install Primebase, but it looks expensive and arcane even >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> install on OS X, so it looks like MySQL) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FMP may stay as an in-house interface, but I'd just as soon make it all >>> web >>>>>>>> and burn FMP. Why support two interfaces when you can do one? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/31/02 1:43 PM, "Stephen Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So Roland & others - Exactly what are we going to do with v5 and our >>>>>>>> FMP >>>>>>>> db's. Switch to an SQL and still use FMP as an order processing >>>>>>>> in-house >>>>>>>> interface? Is it true the WiTango v5 won't support FMP? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gosh, I hate to think of all the problems switching, but I need secure >>>>>>>> XML (https) to exchange data with UPS and USPS for shipping and must >>>>>>>> therefore have T-5. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And yes, the demo was very helpful >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stephen - http://onlytoys.com, a WiTango - MacOS - Filemaker site >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Whether it was used directly or not, it added a lot of value to the >>>>>>>> product. >>>>>>>> It's a good data model, good demo of incorporating business rules, and >>>>>>>> shows >>>>>>>> off Tango well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was using Filemaker and the data model didn't translate well, but it >>>>> was >>>>>>>> extremely helpful in providing guidance to a first-time storefront >>>>> builder. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/31/02 9:18 AM, "Ritchie Carroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wow - that's cool! I didn't know anyone even used that stuff, I wrote >>>>>>>> that StoreFront and all of its biz-rules for Pervasive and didn't know >>>>>>>> if anyone ever got any use our of it :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roland Dumas >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:11 AM >>>>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Shopping Cart >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, it did. Building one from scratch in Tango is also fairly >>>>>>>> straightforward with the various things you can easily do with an >>>>>>>> array. >>>>>>>> I created one to capture the business rules of the storefront better >>>>>>>> than a generic one (certain combinations yield different discounts, >>>>>>>> eligibilities, >>>>>>>> etc.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/31/02 9:08 AM, "John Hollister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Didn't tango come with a complete shopping cart system? >>>>>>>> The store front demo, just a thought >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gene Wolf >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:45 AM >>>>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk >>>>>>>> Subject: Witango-Talk: Shopping Cart >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just got a call from a client and they want to set up an >>>>>>>> e-commerce site. Does anyone out there have a shopping cart system >>>>>>>> they'd be willing >>>>>>>> to sell to this client so it can be integrated into their current >>>>>>>> site? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please respond to me directly with any examples and prices. 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