I guess am am one of those reading to much in to things. I saw that they
were dropping support for the AppleScript path to Filemaker pro.

I also did not see in any of the posts of the conference there being mention
support for AppleScript in Mac OS X. Maybe I just missed it!!

Jose


on 6/2/02 12:27 PM, Dan Stein at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Jose,
> Where do you see anything about dropping applescript in fact it seems Phil
> is specific about supporting it.
> "  We will in fact be extending the
>>> existing FileMaker functionality from using Apple Events to cdml in the near
>>> future." 
> seems to me to say the range of things and therefore includes AppleScript.
> 
> That said:
> Phil it might be best to post a bulleted list of WiTango in relation to FMP
> issues or features.
> 
> I for one look forward to using WiTango as my toll to put any database on
> the Web.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 6/2/02 11:41 AM, Jose Kuhn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> I know you guys can not grant every wish. Is AppleScript support for Mac OS
>> X and Witango truly dropped?  The new AppleScript is so much more powerful
>> than the old it would be a shame to not have it.
>> 
>> Jose
>> 
>> 
>> on 6/2/02 10:52 AM, Phil Wade at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> I am continually amazed at how so much can be read into so little.
>>> 
>>> FileMaker will be supported in version 5 and into the future and we do not
>>> see FileMaker features being removed.  We will infact be extending the
>>> existing FileMaker functionality from using Apple Events to cdml in the near
>>> future.  We are working with FileMaker to continue to enhance the Witango
>>> for FileMaker edition.  FileMaker is a great product, if you are happy with
>>> FileMaker and it meets your needs, keep using it as we will continue to
>>> support it. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Phil
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/6/02 11:56 PM, "Stephen.Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Phil:
>>>> Thanks for the update. Sadly, we suppose from this "suggestion" that FMP
>>>> will NOT be supported by WiTango v5. While FMP is not SQL, and far to
>>>> many developers ridicule the program, in many cases it provides
>>>> outstanding, dependable and easy to produce solutions to cross-platform
>>>> client needs. AND, many of us have invested considerable time, effort and
>>>> monies in developing those solutions, with the assistance of Tango App
>>>> Server. It would be a terrible shame to suggest that all of these
>>>> developers' efforts were now just water over the bridge - worthless.
>>>> There is much promise in anticipated features in FMP v6, and FMP v5.5
>>>> contained many enhancements that made the program even more valuable than
>>>> its predecessors, including its enhanced XML capabilities.
>>>> 
>>>> Let's hope that this is not a true reflection of the FMP-WiTango
>>>> relationship - as divorce is such an ugly (and expensive) proposition.
>>>> Stephen
>>>> 
>>>>> We currently have the Witango Dev Studio for OSX working with iODBC
>>>>> (www.iodbc.org) connecting to MySQL, PostgreSQL and MS SQL 6.5, 7 and
>>>>> 2000.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can download and install it easily.  The openlink drivers (commercial)
>>>>> can be downloaded and used with it and we have found the MS SQL driver is
>>>>> quite solid.  An alternative if you are only wanting to use MySQL and
>>>>> PostgreSQL is the unixODBC (www.unixODBC.org) driver or a binary release
>>>>> can
>>>>> be purchaesd and downloaded from
>>>>> http://www.thekompany.com/products/macodbc/
>>>>> for the enormours expense of $9.95  ;).  If you do not pay for the macODBC
>>>>> version, there are a few tricks to get unixODBC up and running from the
>>>>> source as it is not specifically  modified to understand the OS X
>>>>> environment like iODBC is, but it works fine for PostgreSQL and MyODBC
>>>>> (mySQL) - it is just more unix like than mac like.
>>>>> 
>>>>> iODBC is already distributed as a OS X framework which is great and one of
>>>>> our engineers is colaborating with the unixODBC port to get unixODBC into
>>>>> an
>>>>> OS X framework.  Once this happens, the Dev Studio will be able to use
>>>>> either and you will have a choice.  In fact, the way we have redesigned
>>>>> the
>>>>> OS X Dev Studio, you should be able to use any ODBC driver that is
>>>>> constructed and distributed as a framework.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are currently working on an FAQ for installing iODBC and unixODBC on
>>>>> OSX.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For those using Butler and Filemaker, MySQL is a great db that scales
>>>>> better
>>>>> than either butler or FileMaker.  There are a some good utilities coming
>>>>> out
>>>>> that will give you a GUI to the db and save you from writing all the SQL
>>>>> statements.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are commercial ODBC drivers from both OpenLink (released) and
>>>>> DataDirect Technologies (still in beta).  IMO Openlink is a little ahead
>>>>> of
>>>>> DataDirect in their OS X efforts and have a good understanding of the OS X
>>>>> environment.  There Oracle drive is just about here as well.  DataDirect
>>>>> Technologies are still in development with their darwin ODBC drivers which
>>>>> are due later this year, but the carbonised drivers are due for release
>>>>> shortly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Phil
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/6/02 12:24 PM, "Stephen.Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 5/14/02
>>>>>> August Software released updated Macintosh ODBC drivers for its ODBC
>>>>>> Router application that provides Macintosh access to databases through a
>>>>>> multi-threaded ODBC Windows server connection. The new drivers offer
>>>>>> increased support for the Tango 2000 Web Application Development Studio
>>>>>> by With Enterprises.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 5/9/02
>>>>>> iODBC.org has Mac OS X support in Version 3.0.6 of its iODBC (independent
>>>>>> Open Database Connectivity) development release, an open-source,
>>>>>> platform-independent implementation of both the ODBC and X/Open
>>>>>> specifications. At the same time, OpenLink Software has added Mac OS X
>>>>>> support to its ODBC drivers for MySQL, PostgreSQL, Sybase and MS
>>>>>> SQLServer, with Oracle drivers to follow in a few weeks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Either should help with the ODBC issue
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Only problem could be ODBC
>>>>>>> See below:
>>>>>>> "Metro Technologies, L.L.C. ("Metro") ceased operations as of January
>>>>>>> 31,
>>>>>>> 2002 and is in the process of winding down its affairs.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Metro would like to thank its customers and vendors for their past
>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>> and support.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you are a Metro Technologies customer or vendor and require
>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>> information, please contact Russ Cerqua at 847/719-2280. Mr. Cerqua will
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> handling the winding down process for Metro.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you have a technical question or a question regarding development
>>>>>>> services, please contact Gary Dotzlaw at 847/719-2280."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> on 6/1/02 8:17 AM, Jason Pamental at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Roland,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I came across something last night that might make living with an SQL
>>>>>>>> database a little more palatable, and works with a number of different
>>>> db's:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.rtlabs.com/macsql/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The full version is about $250, but combined with a free database it
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> be a very cost-effective solution. I haven't tried it myself, but it
>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>> promising.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (although the web interface to set up tables for Primebase is pretty
>>>>>>>> easy
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> use)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6/1/02 2:49 AM, "Roland Dumas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My path will likely be to switch to MySQL unless 4D comes to the
>>>>>>>>> table.
>>>> FMP
>>>>>>>>> seems to have been a dead end since v4 didn't evolve into a
>>>> multi-threaded
>>>>>>>>> db, but rather the kludged FMP-server with many instances of FMP
>>>>>>>>> client.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I've been hoping all along that 4D would develop a native connection
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> Tango, but Pervasive wasn't very cooperative on that one. 4D being the
>>>>>>>>> logical heir to the FMP franchise.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (I'll try to install Primebase, but it looks expensive and arcane even
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> install on OS X, so it looks like MySQL)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> FMP may stay as an in-house interface, but I'd just as soon make it
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>> web
>>>>>>>>> and burn FMP. Why support two interfaces when you can do one?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/02 1:43 PM, "Stephen Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So Roland & others - Exactly what are we going to do with v5 and our
>>>>>>>>> FMP
>>>>>>>>> db's. Switch to an SQL and still use FMP as an order processing
>>>>>>>>> in-house
>>>>>>>>> interface? Is it true the WiTango v5 won't support FMP?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gosh, I hate to think of all the problems switching, but I need secure
>>>>>>>>> XML (https) to exchange data with UPS and USPS for shipping and must
>>>>>>>>> therefore have T-5.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> And yes, the demo was very helpful
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Stephen - http://onlytoys.com, a WiTango - MacOS - Filemaker site
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Whether it was used directly or not, it added a lot of value to the
>>>>>>>>> product.
>>>>>>>>> It's a good data model, good demo of incorporating business rules, and
>>>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>>>> off Tango well.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I was using Filemaker and the data model didn't translate well, but it
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> extremely helpful in providing guidance to a first-time storefront
>>>>>> builder.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/02 9:18 AM, "Ritchie Carroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Wow - that's cool!  I didn't know anyone even used that stuff, I wrote
>>>>>>>>> that StoreFront and all of its biz-rules for Pervasive and didn't know
>>>>>>>>> if anyone ever got any use our of it :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roland Dumas
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:11 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Shopping Cart
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it did. Building one from scratch in Tango is also fairly
>>>>>>>>> straightforward with the various things you can easily do with an
>>>>>>>>> array.
>>>>>>>>> I created one to capture the business rules of the storefront better
>>>>>>>>> than a generic one (certain combinations yield different discounts,
>>>>>>>>> eligibilities,
>>>>>>>>> etc.)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/02 9:08 AM, "John Hollister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Didn't tango come with a complete shopping cart system?
>>>>>>>>> The store front demo, just a thought
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gene Wolf
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:45 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Witango-Talk: Shopping Cart
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   I just got a call from a client and they want to set up an
>>>>>>>>> e-commerce site. Does anyone out there have a shopping cart system
>>>>>>>>> they'd be willing
>>>>>>>>> to sell to this client so it can be integrated into their current
>>>>>>>>> site?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   Please respond to me directly with any examples and prices. Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   As Always,
>>>>>>>>>   Gene Wolf
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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