Alex, everyone, Wasn't being evasive; I thought there had been more posted to the list about what is new in this version. Some of the highlights are:
-Preemptive multitasking -Vastly improved performance (lots of numbers have shown up in benchtesting, but I don't have specifics at hand) -@EMAILSESSION and @EMAIL tags - very cool functionality that lets you easily create web-based email applications (ok, it's still kinda complicated -Enhanced and improved error handling and reporting - lets you do much more accurate error handling in your applications -improvements and greater stability in the @URL tag, including allowing you to increase the size of the retrieved data - a huge amount of rewriting to fix bugs, increase stability and in general overcome a lot of the (*ahem*) shortcomings left unresolved by previous owners of the software. - Phil also demonstrated the prototype of the Java compiler that is really fantastic: take a taf created in the dev studio, compile it and deploy to any J2EE server. This has huge implications in the enterprise market, and even for those who want the ease of development but have to host in environment that doesn't support Witango on the server side. Much of the application structure has been set up to allow for a lot of new things going forward, including adding more native interfaces to other databases. I hope this gives you some of what you're looking for. I don't want to elaborate too much more because there's an official release due in the coming days that should outline a lot more, including pricing, testing and release timelines. Jason On a more personal note, I'd like to say that I appreciate the more reserved tone you've taken in the most recent posts. I have to admit that I was pretty aggravated with some of your posts (and those of others) that took such a negative tone during and after Macworld. Those of us at Bathysphere spent a considerable amount of our own money (several thousand dollars) to attend that show and introduce Witango to the Mac community. This was because we believe in the software and the people who own it. You should also know that we committed to this BEFORE we were asked to be a distributor, so our interest in this did NOT stem from software sales profit motivation but rather from a desire to see the platform we've been developing on for years get a good start and achieve the market share we all feel it deserves. This is what will allow ALL of us to continue making a living using the software we choose. We all make what contributions we can, either to the list, to sites like Ben's and Scott's and others, or in our case, with the booth at Macworld. Much has been said about what plans there are for the new version, in features, delivery, price and marketing. All of that is unfolding, Macworld being a big part in starting to gear up media interest. List membership has grown - last I heard it was up to 1000 subscribers (I was pretty amazed). Pricing and availability information is starting to filter out to distributors, but Sophie and Phil would like to make the official release announcement themselves later this week. With all the hard work and effort they put into this, they deserve the chance to spill the beans themselves, and they also deserve all of our applause when they do so. They are about to deliver what is much more than a full version update to the software; in some cases it has been rewritten altogether. To do so in little over a year, on two disparate platforms, is virtually unheard of in the software industry. It's just too much work to get through in such a short amount of time. Ok... I'll stop now. On 7/30/02 5:06 PM, "Alex Kac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK - that's great. But again - as I've stated 3 times now - I am not asking > for a release date that can be broken. I'm asking on WHY we should wait ANY > length of time. Why should I wait even one more minute? THAT is the gist of > it. > > It seems that anybody who can say anything wants to avoid the whole gist of > the message - and corners in on that one little thing about release date. > > Either WiTango 5 has really nothing to offer that's substantial over T2k to > make people stay on the Tango platform or people like to read the first > sentence of an email and ignore the rest. > > Yes, I'm frustrated because all I want is some INFO - not release dates. > None of the reasons you gave were any good for keeping the INFO quiet. > > -- > Alex Kac, CEO/Developer > > Innovation in Personal and Business Information Management > http://www.pocketinformant.com/ > > zoomzoom > > >> From: Jason Pamental <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:35:07 -0400 >> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witangov5 ?? Vaporware? >> >> All, >> >> I don't want this to seem '007' or anything BUT... We got some 'official >> news' this morning and it was too late Sydney time to find out how much of >> it we can share. I'm hoping to get more word tonight and be able to provide >> more to you then. Phil has been keeping the info under a lid mainly for two >> reasons: 1) they want to release as stable a product as possible, and that >> takes a lot of time and testing, and 2) if he gives a date and issues come >> up to delay things, that can be even more frustrating than not announcing at >> all. >> >> Some of the delays have been out of their hands (bugs in operating systems, >> etc) and have necessitated hours spent documenting, reporting the bugs and >> then working around when the OS vendors don't respond in a timely manner. >> >> All that aside, the plan is to ask all of you to participate in a more >> public beta test starting very soon (now here I can't bee more specific >> yet), because as Jon pointed out, the list is full of extremely capable >> developers and you will all no doubt have a lot to contribute. >> >> OK - not exactly 'full disclosure' but by the end of the week there will be >> a lot of info and dates that will be shared with all of you. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> On 7/30/02 4:12 PM, "Brad Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Doesn't Phil or the With team have any officials news?? >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "James MacFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:40 AM >>> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Witangov5 ?? Vaporware? >>> >>> >>>> Alex, >>>> >>>> The survival of WiTango will depend on whether it can compete in today's >>>> market against products like ColdFusion and .Net >>>> >>>> I'd really hate to see them release it half-baked because of market >>>> pressures. >>>> >>>> There are a number of competitive technologies in our midst including the >>>> recent MX-line from Macromedia, which make integration between ColdFusion >>>> and Flash very simple using Web Services. If WiTango fails to address >>> issues >>>> like these advances before the release the product will not be viable, >>> will >>>> not be able to compete in the marketplace and you and I will be forced to >>>> code in something hideously ugly like ASP. >>>> >>>> While I too anticipate this release I'd rather have it when it's ready. I >>>> agree with your position though -- as developers we need to be able to >>> build >>>> viable products and to plan our own technological growth path, which can >>> be >>>> difficult to do when something coming down the pipe *sounds* like it may >>>> solve all your problems but is still off on the foggy distance. >>>> >>>> - James. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Kac >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:13 AM >>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk >>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witangov5 ?? Vaporware? >>>> >>>> >>>> Especially since it did say on the website that all would be told at >>>> MacWorld. Well...its been two weeks. I think we need to know: >>>> >>>> 1) Relative idea of release - within 30, 60, 90, 120, 360 days >>>> 2) Some screenshots showing off new Editor features (this to pacify until >>>> beta is out) >>>> 3) Some of the feature list >>>> >>>> I really do think this is getting long in the tooth. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alex Kac, CEO/Developer >>>> >>>> Innovation in Personal and Business Information Management >>>> http://www.pocketinformant.com/ >>>> >>>> zoomzoom >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Stephen.Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:41:40 -0500 >>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Subject: Witango-Talk: Witangov5 ?? Vaporware? >>>>> >>>>> Lots of teasing. Lots of talk. But MacWorld is now good and over and >>>>> still no announcements. >>>>> >>>>> Phil, please don't leave us hanging any longer as we're about to bail >>> for >>>>> other technology. We just can't wait much longer - Christmas is coming >>>>> FAST! >>>>> >>>>> Stephen, http://onlytoys.com >>>>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body >>>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body >>>> >>>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body >>>> >>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body >> >> -- >> ____________________________________________________________________ >> >> Jason Pamental, President [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Bathysphere Digital Media Services, Inc. http://bathyspheredms.com >> ____________________________________________________________________ >> >> Tel: 401.490.6830 Fax: 401.490.6831 >> ________________________________________ >> >> >> A North American Distributor for Witango (http://www.witango.com) >> >> Rapid Web Application Development - XML Execution Engine >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body >> > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body -- ____________________________________________________________________ Jason Pamental, President [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bathysphere Digital Media Services, Inc. http://bathyspheredms.com ____________________________________________________________________ Tel: 401.490.6830 Fax: 401.490.6831 ________________________________________ A North American Distributor for Witango (http://www.witango.com) Rapid Web Application Development - XML Execution Engine ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body
