On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 at 12:14:30 +0100, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
> 
> About including default dock apps in distros, I think it can be
> tricky because everyone prefers different dockapps. (For example,
> I'd add wmnd to control network interfaces.) If some default set is
> included then they should be Suggests instead of Requires if the
> packaging system supports that (rpm and dpkg does) because they are
> really optional.

Everybody has their own preferences and that's OK.

But what really makes me sad about the default minimalistic approach
is that it makes it harder for other people to try wmaker. 

I see people saying "yeah, ok, it's a nice and clean interface and 
I like it, but the easiness to mount my external media makes me go 
back to GNOME".

In the recent slashdot news there was a guy saying just that in
the comments and helping spread this misinformation. Want one
more example, a well-known news site in Brazil also had a news
about it and there was also a guy in the comments saying just
that. See the post here:

http://br-linux.org/2012/windowmaker-tem-seu-desenvolvimento-retomado/

and notice how the screenshot is apparently the default setup, no
clock, no mixer no nothing, which just helps these prejudices
to grow.

And that just makes me sad, because distros could be more useful
in setting up a decent wmaker for a decent user experience. Stuborn
and hacky people will always find their way to enlightenment, but
others give up.

I'd just like to help these people a bit, because more users mean
more people interested and eventually more people fixing things.

I wrote a piece in www.windowmaker.org/docs.php trying to draw
attention to this, I hope it will be noticed :-)



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