I look at the list guidelines to see if I am appropriate

http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm where it says the list is

Provide web standards information and assistance to developers...

The mail list covers any topic associated with web standards including:

   * Implementing Web Standards - eg: technologies such as HTML, XHTML,
     CSS, DOM, UAAG, RDF, XML, JavaScript and EcmaScript


It seems my questions are about implementing Web Standards. I certainly agree with the earlier posters who suggested I make sure to validate before posting questions on what I do. That would have saved some dumb questions on my behalf. I do think we should probably add requiring validation before posting How To my sites broken questions to the list.

I also do think that it is possible their are lurkers on my list learning web standards and just starting with tableless design who may benefit from my questions. Going back 20 years to college I remember feeling like an idiot being the only one to ask a question in class when I didn't understand something only to have a half a dozen people thank me for my question after class because they were too afraid to ask. So I do believe there are other who may learn from my questions.

There may be a benefit to the group to have multiple mail lists for different aspects of Web Standards including a newbie list where people can seek help. I would also be open to having a standard part of a subject line like Dumb Newbie asking question :) to allow people who don't want to get involved with helping to more easily filter my mail. I can tell you it will probably be 6 months to a year before I can add much more to the list besides asking questions so you may just with to use your email filter to put my posts to your trash bin and take it out again this time next year. I know I am supposed to thank people off list for help but as long as it is part of a longer posting I will just add some thanks for your help. I do learn alot from this list both from my questions on the subject I just read.

Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
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Adam Martin wrote:
Sorry to come across blunt - but I don't think the web standards group is meant to be a teacher of css. Great that people on here are wanting to learn. But there are plenty of other places dedicated to these sort of things. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Horowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <wsg@webstandardsgroup.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Positioning was Extra white line on the top of my list


In playing I've found using the relative positioning working pretty good for me. Is it just a matter of personal preference what I use then?

Thanks for the article I really haven't understood negative margins.

Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
561-394-9079



David Hucklesby wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:32:16 -0400, Michael Horowitz wrote:

The live page is horowitzfamily.net. I'm just learning positioning and this seemed to
work.  The issue as mentioned earlier was transparency in my image.

however I am just learning to do css without tables and really don't know what I "should" be doing for positioning. Quite honestly in hacking around this worked. I'll
be happy to get feedback on better techniques for the future



CSS gives you a lot of options for positioning elements on a page.
As with all design issues, the "best" choice is usually a compromise,
depending on what you want to achieve.

My first choice for positioning elements is often to use margins -
including negative margins on occasion. See this CommunityMX article
for more:

  <http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=b0029>

Hope this helps.

Cordially,
David
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