It certainly is frustrating. I'm calling CQ and getting responses that are
very strong, but will not decode. I assume they are using 75 bit to respond
to me. I just sent a free text message "USE 77BIT" to one person and
suddenly his signal magically started decoding :). Oh well, in spite of all
the stubborn ops who won't upgrade, I'm making plenty of contacts anyway.

Chuck
KG6PH


On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 20:43, Gary Hinson <g...@isect.com> wrote:

> Prior release candidates were able to decode both 75 AND 77-bit messages
> but since there are many more 75s than 77s floating about, users mostly
> send 75 bit responses … unless prompted … and even then it’s like pushing
> string uphill some days …
>
> Those of us using RC5 can ONLY transmit and receive 77 bit messages.
>
> We can’t send 75 bit messages.
>
> We can’t decode 75 bit messages.
>
> We do not have the capability, in that release candidate, to encode or
> decode 75 bit messages.
>
> 75 bit messages are merely unsightly smears on our waterfalls.
>
> We are stuck with 77 bits, no more, no less.
>
> 76 bits won’t cut it, nor 78.  77½ bits would be OK but might break the
> laws of physics.
>
> It’s 77 bits or bust, basically - mostly bust at present until word gets
> out about the sexy new version of FT8.
>
> In other words, we’re using FT8+ not FT8, pushing back the front ears.
>
> 73
> Gary  ZL2iFB
>
>
>
> *From:* Chuck Furman <chuck.fur...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 29 November 2018 14:30
> *To:* WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] 2 more bug reports on RC5
>
>
>
> I’m confused. Why is CQ 77 helpful?  Only people who are already on 77 bit
> mode will decode you. Am I missing something? I am just curious. It seem
> more useful to TX on 75 bits with something like “PSE USE 77BIT”
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 7:23 PM Al Pawlowski <k6...@almont.com> wrote:
>
> I have used “CQ 77 …..” a few times for the same thing and it is not very
> sticky also. In fact, even saved free text messages revert to the standard
> after any attempt to answer a call.
>
>
>
> In addition, it appears double-clicking a received message with <CQ_XXX>,
> which is what other non-standard CQ messages I’ve seen decode as (probably
> my 77 also, will not initiate a return/answer sequence on double click -
> you have to start one manually (type callsign, generate messages, select
> TX1, enable tx). So, I only send a couple of the CQ 77 messages and
> followed by a standard CQ, or CQ DX.
>
>
>
>
>
> Al Pawlowski, K6AVP
> Los Osos, CA USA
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 12:36:29 +1300
>
> From: "Gary Hinson" <g...@isect.com>
> To: "'WSJT software development'" <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: [wsjt-devel] 2 more bug reports on RC5
>
> ………. I've tried sending "CQ PLUS ZL2IFB RF80" and
> little free text messages to give more of a clue that I'm using the new 77
> bit version . but I've noticed that the "PLUS" in my CQ message is not very
> sticky………….
>
>
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