Too many on ebay are garbage clones.   So find a legit 5 volt one. 
You can wire rts to cts, etc.  
Aug
AG5AT 

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> On Feb 8, 2021, at 3:30 PM, David Tiller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Also, the CP2012 is not 5v tolerant. 
> https://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/IC/cp2102.pdf
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 3:33 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm..that's 4-wire...so ground, tx, rx, and 5V and wouldn't work with 
>> hardware flow control.
>> 
>> Mike W9MDB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, February 8, 2021, 01:33:11 PM CST, August Treubig 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> A din 6 pin and this will work fine.
>> 
>> https://www.adafruit.com/product/954
>> 
>> No magic.  Just a bit of soldering.
>> Aug
>> AG5AT 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Bill Somerville <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> there are several third-party replacements for the now unavailable IF-232C 
>> module that is needed on this and other early Kenwood rigs. Most faithfully 
>> replicate the original IF-232C, some may not. The manual is almost certainly 
>> correct, the reporter, if he is correct, almost certainly has a non-standard 
>> IF-232C replacement.
>> 
>> 73
>> Bill
>> G4WJS.
>> 
>> On 08/02/2021 18:17, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
>>> The dude said "manual is wrong".
>>> 
>>> Trying to get more information on serial cable to see if that's the cause.
>>> 
>>> Old thread noticed a difference between cable types on a 450.  Might have 
>>> to do with RTS/CTS wiring differences and whether the cable supports 
>>> hardware flow control.
>>> 
>>> https://wsprnet.org/drupal/node/1307
>>> 
>>> Mike W9MDB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Monday, February 8, 2021, 12:06:48 PM CST, Bill Somerville 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 08/02/2021 17:45, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Anybody with a TS-450S out there that is available for some testing?
>>> >
>>> > I've got somebody claiming it needs 1 stop bit and XONXOFF handshake 
>>> > which I've never heard before and 2 stop bits and HARDWARE handshake 
>>> > is the default setup and has been for years.
>>> >
>>> > Mike W9MDB
>>> 
>>> Mike,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> according to the TS-450S/TS-690S CAT programming manual it is full 
>>> duplex 4800 baud 8N2 with RTS/CTS flow control using TTL signal levels. 
>>> I would be very surprised if that information was incorrect!
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> Bill
>>> G4WJS.
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