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Lähettäjä: Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
Lähetetty: sunnuntai 22. lokakuuta 2023 12.56
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Kopio: Reino Talarmo
Aihe: Re: [wsjt-devel] No 73 allowed after RR73?

Keijo, which bands you have used? Perhaps HF and 6 m during Es propagation?

73, Reino OH3mA

From: OG55W via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] 
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 10:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] No 73 allowed after RR73?

Last two months I have had about 5000 FT8/FT4 QSOs. I have received just one 
RRR, all the others were RR73. So RRR is not in use very much…

73 Keijo OG5O

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Lähettäjä: Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
Lähetetty: sunnuntai 22. lokakuuta 2023 8.49
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Kopio: Reino Talarmo
Aihe: Re: [wsjt-devel] No 73 allowed after RR73?

Hi Andy and all,
The protocol is flexible on that issue. The original weak signal QSO do contain 
a “RRR” that is “confirmed” by a “73” to keep both sizes of the QSO happy. 
The “RR73” is really intended for “strong signal” QSO’s and then the “73” is 
not needed to keep the QSO time short.

73, Reino OH3mA

From: Andrew Neumeier via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] 
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 1:05 AM
To: Neil Zampella via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Andrew Neumeier <ka2...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] No 73 allowed after RR73?

In some cases the use of RR73 is problematic.  I operate FT8 almost exclusively 
on 2 meters, weak signal.  If I am working a very weak station, and that 
station chooses to use RR73 instead of 73, there
is a good chance that I have not received it, especially if I am waiting for a 
qsb peak on the signal.  By sending RR73 that station assumes we are done once 
RR73 is sent, but we may not be done.  I continue
sending a signal report, while the station I was in contact with is off working 
another station.  I may then fail to log that qso, since it is incomplete, 
unless the station realizes the mistake and continues the qso.   

On occasion I have even seen RR73 used in MSK144 or even Q65 which is just out 
of line in weak signal, or meteor scatter work.  

When working weak signals I don't think RR73 should ever be used and I never 
use it myself.  

73,
Andy, ka2uqw



On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 04:53:15 PM EDT, Neil Zampella via wsjt-devel 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: 


FWIW ... if you received an RR73 .. there is no need to reply.   

The station is saying that RR I got your last, and 'over and out' ...  

The other party is not waiting for your reply, they're on to another contact.

Neil, KN3ILZ
On 10/21/2023 1:14 PM, Andy Durbin wrote:
WSJT-X ver 2.6.1, Win 8.1.

I have observed several times that I could not complete a QSO by sending 73 
after I had received an RR73.  This is expected operation with F/H active but 
not when F/H is not active.  I suspect that something is latched in software if 
F/H mode has been used but is then exited and WSJT-X is not re-started.

Has anyone else seen this or have an explanation?

73,
Andy, k3wyc
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