Dear René, I love what you said: "let's hope that this is a wake-up call so that some people start working on porting the Wayland libraries". That's a very nice way to summarize what I wanted to say in my (admittedly too long) email a few minutes ago. Thank you for asking this! I don't want X11 usage to get relegated to (only) MacPorts users, because lots of us refuse to use MacPorts or Homebrew or any other package manager.
A wake-up call would be wonderful. Indeed, every time that I read the news about Apple's continued success in the marketplace (just look at their awesome stock prices, for instance), I am wondering if it is worthwhile for the X11 community to (for instance) send a petition to Apple directly, to continue development of an X11 installer on the Mac. This would probably be easy for Apple to achieve, if they dedicated just a few people's time/effort to such a project. Right? (I realize that I sound very naive here, and I don't want to sound that way. I've been a committed Apple user since I was a child in the early 1980's.) Best wishes, Mark On 1/5/20 3:39 AM, René J.V. Bertin via X11-users wrote: > On Sunday January 05 2020 01:44:19 Gunning, James wrote: > >>> https://www.macg.co/macos/2019/07/xorg-bientot-abandonne-et-avec-lui-x11-sur-mac-106945 >> X.Org, the free implementation of the X11 windowing system will soon enter >> "maintenance mode". Driven by Red Hat, the Gnome desktop environment ditched >> X.Org in favor of Wayland, which is set to become the primary display server >> for GNU / Linux distributions. "Once we're done," says director of Red Hat >> Enterprise Linux (RHEL) Desktop, "we plan to put X.Org into maintenance mode >> soon enough." > That's a very Linux-centric situation, as Wayland has rather strong links to > Linux-specifics at the moment. I haven't looked at FreeBSD for a while to see > if they have a good, efficient adaptation (and how that's linked to newer > versions of their kernel). But even then, FreeBSD isn't the only other Unix > implementation out there, and X.Org is not a project that cannot be forked > even if the current official repo goes into feature freeze. > > Anyway, let's hope that this is a wake-up call so that some people start > working on porting the Wayland libraries so that Qt's Wayland can be built > and possibly even KDE's KWin with its Wayland compositor implementation (how > the KDE people would like that! ;) ). > > As to running the latest "official" XQuartz: I stopped doing that even on > 10.9 because it has a tendency to crash on startup and randomly later on, on > my bi-head system where I routinely 1) use FUS to go the login screen which > allows me to 2) disconnect the external screen without causing a desktop > rearrangement then 3) suspend the machine and finally 4) potentially connect > a different external after waking it in a different location. > I'm now running my own take on MacPorts' port:xorg-server-devel, v1.20.1 > (https://github.com/RJVB/macstrop/tree/master/x11/xorg-server-devel) and that > works well enough; combined with a patched Mesa > (https://github.com/RJVB/macstrop/tree/master/x11/mesa) that has some support > for software EGL I can even run remote applications that do fancier things > (or KF5 applications that simply crash when forced to use GLX). > > Jeremy: dunno if you're still on this list or otherwise felt us treading on > your tail ... happy newyear! :) > > R. > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > X11-users mailing list (X11-users@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/x11-users/mdw%40purdue.edu > > This email sent to m...@purdue.edu _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. X11-users mailing list (X11-users@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/x11-users/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
