Hey Andy, your solution would work for me too. It is close to the quick fix we discussed earlier. (Just make ALT1+ALT2 selectable) However there are two points which in my opinion are drawbacks from the solution I suggested.
1) As I understand your concept, you would have to do the long click, select waypoint for every infobox(which you would like to show alternate data), every time you change alternate. But like in my example you might have more than one infobox showing alternate data (e.g Heading to, Arr Alt, GR). That would be quite some clicking to do in flight.. 2) You might have only an "Arrival Alt" Infobox for your Alternate. If you get low and decide to fly to your alternate you have to set it again as main target to navigate there. Again more clicking in a phase of flight when you dont need it. With the TARGET, NAV1, NAV2 solution it would only be one, (maximum two if set on NAV2) taps in the screen corner. How about if the T,1,2 solution was implemented and in Setup System the following config options added. 1) show Mode-Announciation in map-corner on/off 2) lock Nav-Mode to off/TASK/NAV1 3) Gesture to switch Nav-Mode If the user doesn't like the map screen element: - set option1 to off -> configure gesture or mode-switching infobox If the user would only like an extra infopage like Claus suggested or just an extra infobox as Andy : - option 1 off -> lock Navmode to TASK -> setup your Info-Page -> assing your targets via "Set NAV1, Set NAV2" Would that work for you? Cheers Henrik PS: I never used LX5000 for navigation, except direct to home field in our club glider... ;-) Am 17.01.2013 07:10, schrieb Andy Gough: > Jan 16, 2013; 10:55am — by "Claus-W. Häbel" > Hi, not that bad, but > > What about just creating a new Infobox-Page for that?? > > Wouldn 't be that a very easy idea?? > > claus > ************************************************************* > > In short, yes. > > Henrik's proposal is a very good duplication of the LX5000/7000 solution, I > am not sure if that was his intention, but that is what it suggests to me. > However most of the solution already exists in XCSoar and can be improved to > deliver the same functionality without the literal duplication and increase > in NAV setups. > > I have been flying with an LX5000 since it was introduced. When I started > using XCSoar I naturally tried to find the LX equivalent solutions to which > I had become accustomed. I did run an alternates page as Claus has suggested > that I called PANIC, i.e. It looks like I may be running into trouble time > to focus on the best solution for this problem, switch to PANIC screen. The > waypoints in ALT1 and ALT2 are not selectable which makes this solution > ineffective. > > XCSoar equivalents to LX functions: > > LX Task screen > XCSoar NAV menu and INFO boxes enable programming and display of task > parameters on a moving map. > > LX Turnpoint screen > XCSoar turnpoint list and GOTO function. > > LX Airport screen > XCSoar turnpoint list and GOTO function. > > LX Near airports screen > XCSoar displays reachable airports in green and displays height difference > above or below safety arrival height on a label attached to the airport. > > LX Quick turnpoint (assign current postion as a turnpoint) > No XCSoar equivalent function exists. Simplest solution would be to adapt > the thermal marker function to include an option to mark the location as a > landing field. LX adds the Quick turnpoint to the turnpoints file, I can't > see any reason why XCSoar shouldn't do the same. > > The major element that is missing is a selectable ALT1and ALT2 waypoint. > Instead of adding a whole new NAV menu it would be simpler to add a setup > function to the ALT info box similar to other info boxes, e.g. MC/MANUAL. > Before proceeding it would be a good idea to examine the objective or reason > to include this function. My conclusion: > > Navigation to a safe landing before task conclusion. > An aid to making a tactical task decision. > To provide postion information to a third party. > > There are undoubtedly other objectives or reasons but maybe none that would > require a new NAV menu. > > I like the simple click, tap on the NAV markers in the top right of the > screen to select the desired waypoint but I am not happy with the change of > focus and the additional screen clutter. I would suggest a long click on the > waypoint info box to open the setup dialog and include a GOTO button. To > recognize when navigation to an ALT waypoint has been selected I would > suggest a change in color, i.e. when ALT info boxes are included on an INFO > PAGE, active waypoint info box background is assigned a color, maybe green > when above safety arrival and orange or red when below, same as the final > glide bar. Main thing is to indicate clearly without ambiguity which > waypoint is active. > > Henrik has envisaged an elegant way to execute the alternates solution but I > do not see the need for the extra Nav menus and screen elements. The > alternates above do not add any more elements to the current XCSoar screen > and info boxes, but still accomplish the end objective. > > > Andy Gough > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://xcsoar.1045713.n5.nabble.com/Proposal-how-XCS-could-handle-multiple-Navigation-Targets-tp5710325p5710331.html > Sent from the xcsoar-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, > MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current > with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft > MVPs and experts. 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