Is
this a new XML translation ?
The word 'cock' springs to mind
I am, I am I fuckin well
am
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28/07/00
Subject: Re: A FEW VERY SIMPLE
QUESTION!!! OR
Mine's Smaller
than
08:22
Yours
Dear William,
Given your stature among
the members of this list and
your legendary humor, I shouldn't even dare to
deny
your insight in the minds of Kurt Svensson's and me.
But the fact
is that I am the Technical Manager of a
GEIS VAN and I don't think that
"Internet EDI using
Interoperable standards and VANs are
overkill",
otherwise I won't be on this list.
I was only trying to give
a SIMPLE and CLEAR answer
both theoretically and practically using a
popular
Internet Age language.
Regards,
Paul Aoun
--- "William
J. Kammerer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Paul Williams, of the Kellogg Company, asked some
>
simple reasonable
> questions on how to move XML documents over
the
> Internet, especially
> how addressability is
handled.
>
> Addressability of business documents, whether
X12,
> EDIFACT or
> RosettaNet, is usually based on a logical
business
> identifier such as a
> DUNS, UCS ID, or EAN Location
Number. One of a
> VAN's most important
> value-adds is to
route documents based on these IDs
> to the intended
> recipient
safely and securely. On the other hand,
> Internet EDI
packages
> like 8760's GISBAgent or Cyclone Interchange (which
>
are based on
> interoperable standards) require some sort of
setup
> to equate the
> logical business ID with Internet
addresses. Add
> in key maintenance,
> certificate
exchange, etc. etc., and the maintenance
> headaches add up
>
quickly, perhaps allowing us to better appreciate
> the services of a
VAN.
> Also, don't forget to throw in the intimate
> relationship
you need with
> the corporate *NETWORK MAN* (i.e., the need to
>
listen to his tirades
> against Bill Gates) to get past firewalls and
do
> that mumbo-jumbo with
> proxy servers and port
addresses.
>
> IT Man, a.k.a. Paul Aoun, seems to think that
both
> Internet EDI using
> Interoperable standards and VANs are
overkill. He
> instead says
> everything Paul needs can be
done in a snippet of
> Java code for *FREE*.
> Now, IT Man and
Kurt Svensson have squared off in a
> perverse duel,
> goaded on
by Brian Curtis, to establish their
> alpha-male position;
>
except in this case, he who has the *SMALLER* one
>
wins.
>
> Of course, I have no interest in reading any
code
> which has no comments.
> But from the little bit I saw of
either IT Man's or
> Kurt's code, I don't
> understand what all
the stuff about doing queries
> against a database has
> to do
with the demo. Paul Williams asked about
> sending an *XML
>
document* across the internet; is it really of any
> interest how
that
> document is created? - it just confuses the
issue.
>
> But I'm going to assume Paul has serious needs
(and
> I won't even
> question here why he's using XML). If
he's not
> interested in the VAN or
> Internet EDI (i.e., those
which use interoperable
> standards) solutions,
> then he might
also consider OnDisplay's *FREE* "B2B
> XML server for
> secure,
reliable information delivery over the
> Internet - XML
Connect,"
> at http://www.xmlconnect.net/xmlconnect/.
>
>
William J. Kammerer
> FORESIGHT Corp.
> 4950 Blazer Memorial
Pkwy.
> Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
> +1 614
791-1600
>
> Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at
> http://www.foresightcorp.com/
>
"Commerce for a New World"
>
>
>
>
>
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