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> From: Steve Bell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:54 PM
> To: XML/edi Group
> Subject: RE: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
> Yours
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> Is this a new XML translation ?
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> The word 'cock' springs to mind
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> I am, I am I fuckin well am
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> cc: (bcc: Glenn
> Chegwidden/MIS/KTCIE)
> 28/07/00 Subject: Re: A FEW VERY
> SIMPLE
> QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
> 08:22 Yours
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> Dear William,
>
> Given your stature among the members of this list and
> your legendary humor, I shouldn't even dare to deny
> your insight in the minds of Kurt Svensson's and me.
> But the fact is that I am the Technical Manager of a
> GEIS VAN and I don't think that "Internet EDI using
> Interoperable standards and VANs are overkill",
> otherwise I won't be on this list.
> I was only trying to give a SIMPLE and CLEAR answer
> both theoretically and practically using a popular
> Internet Age language.
>
> Regards,
> Paul Aoun
> --- "William J. Kammerer"
> < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
> > Paul Williams, of the Kellogg Company, asked some
> > simple reasonable
> > questions on how to move XML documents over the
> > Internet, especially
> > how addressability is handled.
> >
> > Addressability of business documents, whether X12,
> > EDIFACT or
> > RosettaNet, is usually based on a logical business
> > identifier such as a
> > DUNS, UCS ID, or EAN Location Number. One of a
> > VAN's most important
> > value-adds is to route documents based on these IDs
> > to the intended
> > recipient safely and securely. On the other hand,
> > Internet EDI packages
> > like 8760's GISBAgent or Cyclone Interchange (which
> > are based on
> > interoperable standards) require some sort of setup
> > to equate the
> > logical business ID with Internet addresses. Add
> > in key maintenance,
> > certificate exchange, etc. etc., and the maintenance
> > headaches add up
> > quickly, perhaps allowing us to better appreciate
> > the services of a VAN.
> > Also, don't forget to throw in the intimate
> > relationship you need with
> > the corporate *NETWORK MAN* (i.e., the need to
> > listen to his tirades
> > against Bill Gates) to get past firewalls and do
> > that mumbo-jumbo with
> > proxy servers and port addresses.
> >
> > IT Man, a.k.a. Paul Aoun, seems to think that both
> > Internet EDI using
> > Interoperable standards and VANs are overkill. He
> > instead says
> > everything Paul needs can be done in a snippet of
> > Java code for *FREE*.
> > Now, IT Man and Kurt Svensson have squared off in a
> > perverse duel,
> > goaded on by Brian Curtis, to establish their
> > alpha-male position;
> > except in this case, he who has the *SMALLER* one
> > wins.
> >
> > Of course, I have no interest in reading any code
> > which has no comments.
> > But from the little bit I saw of either IT Man's or
> > Kurt's code, I don't
> > understand what all the stuff about doing queries
> > against a database has
> > to do with the demo. Paul Williams asked about
> > sending an *XML
> > document* across the internet; is it really of any
> > interest how that
> > document is created? - it just confuses the issue.
> >
> > But I'm going to assume Paul has serious needs (and
> > I won't even
> > question here why he's using XML). If he's not
> > interested in the VAN or
> > Internet EDI (i.e., those which use interoperable
> > standards) solutions,
> > then he might also consider OnDisplay's *FREE* "B2B
> > XML server for
> > secure, reliable information delivery over the
> > Internet - XML Connect,"
> > at <http://www.xmlconnect.net/xmlconnect/>.
> >
> > William J. Kammerer
> > FORESIGHT Corp.
> > 4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy.
> > Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
> > +1 614 791-1600
> >
> > Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at
> > <http://www.foresightcorp.com/>
> > "Commerce for a New World"
> >
> >
> >
> >
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