I have to ask this Cde's, since the new leadership of the YL took over I hear very few things that they are doing to address the plight and the needs of the young people who are unemployed, poor and vulnerable. Since they took over it was the lobbying for Polokwane, campaign against T.M. elections and now nationalization/ PPP what ever you name it as it is still confusing the same people who are spearheading it, I don't see any real campaigns that will make sure that young people are employed, skilled and so on. The only thing that the leadership is doing is chasing their tales and fighting fire by fire of which I don't think they will survive. Now its 2012 leadership campaign, its journalists and all these things that have no relevancy to the twin tasks that they are entrusted with. Maybe Cde Floyd can prove me wrong but I don't see any reason why a young person like me can belong to a structure that don't mean anything to me but rather obsessed with petty things that don't relate directly to the needs of young people. Cde Malema for example with that watch of R250 000, how children who don't have access to tertiary institutions because of funds could have assisted? All Capitalists
Dumisani Tuis- Court Manager Department of Justice & Constitutional Development- Victoria West Office Tel: +2753-6210007 Fax: 0865070204 Cell: +27736430439 "The possibility that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just"- Abraham Lincoln ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nyiko Floyd Shivambu Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Why is Floyd Shivambu digging for dirt on journos? Comrade Mzukisi Your view is balanced and reflects a sense of organic interaction with politics, not some desktop mobilisation of communists to support Journalists against the ANC YL as done by certain people. This mobilisation even goes to the extent to mobilising some SOS, which has nothing to do with this issue to oppose the ANC YL, because someone finds it fashionable to oppose the movement. It's really unscientific and illusionary to believe that media can in a capitalist system, embrace progressive ideals. Let's wake up and smell the coffee. This world is real. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Mzukisi Ronyuza <[email protected]> wrote: I propose that we unpack the character of our media in this country. I am very sure that we all agree that our media does not play the expected role. In a class struggle ideas, beliefs and values are important and media is a very strong tool that cannot be left in the hands of class rivals. But to be honest in the spats of the past two months you one does not not the difference between a revolutionary and a reactionary, between communist and capitalist, between conscious or spontaneous assertions etc. Our media has also played a large role in pitting comrades against each other. This country, I repeat, is far from producing alternative media. I was told that Kaya FM or Y-FM, I am not sure which one, is the product of the ANC. If this is real, are we using it to the advantage of our revolution? I believe Floyd we also close space when we attack people that we should have won to our side. The liberation movement, we say is an omnibus, meaning that we should mobilise communities and consolidate them behind the ideals of the working biased NDR. Journalists should form part of that. The recent internal and dynamic processes in the movement have shown that self-destruct is possible if there are no revolutionary checks and balances in what we do, these can come thru patriotic media, revolutionary Alliance, communities, revolutionary intellectuals etc. importance of ideas, beliefs and values with regard to the class struggle. On 3/18/10, Nyiko Floyd Shivambu <[email protected]> wrote: "The individuals composing the ruling class possess among other things consciousness, and therefore think. Insofar, therefore, as they rule as a class and determine the extent and compass of an epoch, it is self-evident that they do this in its whole range, hence among other things rule also as thinkers, as producers of ideas, and regulate the production and distribution of the ideas of their age: thus their ideas are the ruling ideas of the epoch"...... This stems from a correct scientific discovery by a revolutionary scientific socialist, Karl Marx, whose correct observation was that "the ideas of a the ruling class are in every epoch, the ruling ideas". I am now worried that Dominic (whom you refer to as VC) is misguiding 'commmunists" to defend Journalists, who in a capitalist society are agents of the capitalist mental reproduction. factionalism has potential to annihiliate our organisation. -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. 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