Morning Comrades, While still addressing Cde Tsinengs point, pardon me if i am throwing you off the main topic but i could`nt help but think to take this opportunity to ask: What does one do when they are headed to be retrenched? What do you say and not say when they are taking you through the process especially when they`ve been scrutinizing your every move to substantiate why they see you as a candidate?If the company is running at a loss, is it possible that they might state that they will not be able to pay whats due to you? Your insight in this matter will appreciated...
On 7/1/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Cde Tsineng, > I agree with you when you imply that the differences between workers and the > capitalists are of an irreconcilable nature. Your reasoning of the issue as > a matter of worker greed leaves much to be desired. I will come back to > address this error in analysis. The assertion of unreasonableness among some > employers as a cause of strikes in other cases is misleading. It creates an > impression that there's reasonable or fair theft or exploitation yet there > is no such. What settle differences is mainly the perceived balance of > forces in relation to the class rivals. Balance of forces is the point of > equilibrium. This is not fixed but shifts with the development of class > forces. More on this will be said when time so permit. Enough to say this is > limited to the quantitative change process. Turning to the issue worker's > greed. Let me remind you my esteemed comrade that the extraction of surplus > value takes place at the production point rather than the market place. > Therefore the workers demand compensation for labor embodied as value in the > product of their toil. Capital would like to have us believe that this is > sharing of a profit that belongs to them. This is actually reduction of the > exploitation burden that workers carry for centuries. What workers should be > demanding is the end to all forms of exploitation of man by man. Gender > neutral man. > > Let's talk > > Zama. > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > -----Original Message----- > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:56:05 > To: [email protected]<[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Relationship between employer and the workers > > In view of recent strikes and intent to strike by different organisation, I > start to believe that it is true that always when the two meet,the will be > differences,to the extent that each flex the muscle. Some of the demands are > really genuine,while sometimes greediness drives some workers. The core > issue that make the relationship sour is mainly sharing of profit,in > majority of instances the employer want to get muc bigger portion and always > try his best to give the workers minimum. What can be the solution to avoid > this,because in most cases is a loose-loose situation. What are the other > better options to assist growth. Let me pause for > now.:::0:a0534a1742f6f7e1d1a8979adbd948d0:7d0:x::: > > -- > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to > this message. > You can visit the group WEB SITE at > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery > options, pages, files and membership. > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . > You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to > put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to > this address (repeat): [email protected] . > > -- > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to > this message. > You can visit the group WEB SITE at > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery > options, pages, files and membership. > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . > You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to > put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to > this address (repeat): [email protected] . > -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] .
