Ngiyabonga Camarada! I am new to this,so i trust that as i go along i will figure things out!
Once again thank you! On 7/1/10, sithembele senti <[email protected]> wrote: > > Comrade, > > > > Your question is vague to give an opinion but at least find hereuder the > basics > > > > 1. You should establish when the decision was taken, was there any > consultation with workers involved,what is the criteria of identifying the > workers to be retrenched, are the affected workers presented with > opportunities to provide alternative arrangements to avoid or minimise > retrenchments, has the employer explored on its own instance other > alternatives to retrenchments, is the retrenchment based on Operational > requirements (ask for Business rationale document/Document of Intent) > > > > take this info and go and consult with your Union if you have, if you dont > have go and consult with your lawyer. > > Do not sign any doc without consulting your union/lawyer. > > > > As for the payment; you are entitled to at least one week pay for every year > of a continueos/unbroken service and all other monies that were due to you > e.g leave and outstanding bonuses (if awarded). > > > > I must emphasize though that it is important to join a union if there is one > in your environment because these matters would be dealt with through them. > Hope that will help > > > > "ALL YOUNG AND OLD REVOLUTIONARIES TO THE FRONT" > > > > Stera Senti > >> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 09:18:06 +0200 >> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Relationship between employer and the >> workers >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> >> Morning Comrades, >> >> While still addressing Cde Tsinengs point, pardon me if i am throwing >> you off the main topic but i could`nt help but think to take this >> opportunity to ask: What does one do when they are headed to be >> retrenched? What do you say and not say when they are taking you >> through the process especially when they`ve been scrutinizing your >> every move to substantiate why they see you as a candidate?If the >> company is running at a loss, is it possible that they might state >> that they will not be able to pay whats due to you? Your insight in >> this matter will appreciated... >> >> On 7/1/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Cde Tsineng, >> > I agree with you when you imply that the differences between workers and >> > the >> > capitalists are of an irreconcilable nature. Your reasoning of the issue >> > as >> > a matter of worker greed leaves much to be desired. I will come back to >> > address this error in analysis. The assertion of unreasonableness among >> > some >> > employers as a cause of strikes in other cases is misleading. It creates >> > an >> > impression that there's reasonable or fair theft or exploitation yet >> > there >> > is no such. What settle differences is mainly the perceived balance of >> > forces in relation to the class rivals. Balance of forces is the point >> > of >> > equilibrium. This is not fixed but shifts with the development of class >> > forces. More on this will be said when time so permit. Enough to say >> > this is >> > limited to the quantitative change process. Turning to the issue >> > worker's >> > greed. Let me remind you my esteemed comrade that the extraction of >> > surplus >> > value takes place at the production point rather than the market place. >> > Therefore the workers demand compensation for labor embodied as value in >> > the >> > product of their toil. Capital would like to have us believe that this >> > is >> > sharing of a profit that belongs to them. This is actually reduction of >> > the >> > exploitation burden that workers carry for centuries. What workers >> > should be >> > demanding is the end to all forms of exploitation of man by man. Gender >> > neutral man. >> > >> > Let's talk >> > >> > Zama. >> > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> > Sender: [email protected] >> > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:56:05 >> > To: [email protected]<[email protected]> >> > Reply-To: [email protected] >> > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Relationship between employer and the >> > workers >> > >> > In view of recent strikes and intent to strike by different >> > organisation, I >> > start to believe that it is true that always when the two meet,the will >> > be >> > differences,to the extent that each flex the muscle. Some of the demands >> > are >> > really genuine,while sometimes greediness drives some workers. The core >> > issue that make the relationship sour is mainly sharing of profit,in >> > majority of instances the employer want to get muc bigger portion and >> > always >> > try his best to give the workers minimum. What can be the solution to >> > avoid >> > this,because in most cases is a loose-loose situation. What are the >> > other >> > better options to assist growth. Let me pause for >> > now.:::0:a0534a1742f6f7e1d1a8979adbd948d0:7d0:x::: >> > >> > -- >> > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >> > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply >> > to >> > this message. >> > You can visit the group WEB SITE at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >> > options, pages, files and membership. >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email >> > [email protected] . >> > You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have >> > to >> > put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an >> > e-mail to >> > this address (repeat): [email protected] . >> > >> > -- >> > You are subscribed. 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