Anthony, My remarks are embedded in your post below:
--- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill, > Â > Don't lurk. > I have to lurk, and I have to return to it more faithfully. I'm extremely busy attending to affairs that have could have a very profound affect on my mother's wellbeing. That is my only priority right now. > How do you know your 'self' is 'annihilated' or somehow disappear, so that karma will no longer work? > Loosing your attachment to the concept of self for the first time is called 'kensho' in Japanese. Incorporating that entirely into your life is called 'satori' in Japanese. The dropping of self and all of its clutter is what Joshu tried to communicate when he answered his student's question about Buddha Nature with "Mu", dropping of self is experiencing a dried shit stick, dropping of self leaves Just THIS! Buddha Nature is Just THIS! > Does that mean nihilism? Or nirvana? > Experiencing Buddha Nature is quite different from nilhism. Nilhism, as I understand it, denies all existence; Buddha Nature confrims and embraces all existence. Nilhism holds that nothing can be known or communicated; Just THIS! is everything and although Just THIS! cannot itself be directly communicted, it can be experienced. There are some similarities in nihilism's rejection of religious values, but Buddha Nature doesn't actually reject them, they are just rendered moot. Nirvana is a religious concept in Buddhism (and probably other religions). It's maya. It's a carrot at the end of a sutra-stick. It's embellishment. Just THIS! is not nirvana. Just THIS! is Just THIS! Nothing more, nothing less. Back to lurking mode...Bill! ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
