If you lose your mind, you cannot practice, unless a Joshu comes to strike you 
with a big stick or you reincarnate as a wild fox.

--- On Sun, 3/10/10, DP <wookielife...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: DP <wookielife...@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [Zen] Re: Unclear on what is mind
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 4:23 AM


My concern then is the idea of losing the mind, either through senility or 
dementia or mental illness. If we are stripped of our cognitive abilities, then 
where is the mind, and how can we still practise?

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "cid830" <summitj...@...> wrote:
> DP,
> I think the concept of mind is the basis of Buddhism. From my perspective in 
> practise, the mind is key to ultimate nirvana and the obstruction to getting 
> there. It is the cause of our suffering and the only way to relieve that 
> suffering. It is the reason we seek out religions to answer our questions of 
> who we are, and the reason we still doubt no matter how much we want to 
> believe. Through our mind we will find our Ultimate Widom, but we have to 
> dissolve our ego and attachments, everything we have learned to distinguish 
> us as individuals, and of those things the mind doesn't easily let go!
> Master Bill is right, this is the Zen Forum. And Buddhism can be separate 
> from zen, that is up for discussion. Many things can be related to zen. If 
> you would like to discuss your views on religion with compassionate 
> individuals, I'm sure you can find a friendly place here. And we'll find a 
> way to relate them to zen.
> Thank you DP, and thank you Master Bill,
> it's good to be back.
> Chris D 
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "DP" <wookielifeday@> wrote:
> >
> > Part of my fear of death is not so much of death but of senility or loss of 
> > memory. In western terms, that's what I think of as mind. But I have to 
> > admit, I dont know if I fully understand the Buddhist concept of mind. Can 
> > anybody help with this?
> >

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