Jody/Mayka, Soto zen is otherwise called zombie zen. A zombie doesn't talk, let alone create koans. Renzai should read Rinzai. Anthony
--- On Sat, 9/10/10, Jody W. Ianuzzi <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jody W. Ianuzzi <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Zen] New member. To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, 9 October, 2010, 5:45 AM Hello Mayka, Usually the slaps are given to awaken someone who has fallen asleep. The enlightened awakening comes from inside. You can get drowsy and less focused and the slap is to make you pay attention. I don't think there are koans in soto but maybe someone more knowledgeable then me can answer. JODY
